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‘Death By a Thousand Reminders’: Wall Street Journal Blames Nagging for Killing Your Marriage
A recent article in the Wall Street Journal proclaims that nagging is a major marriage killer, more common than adultery and just as toxic. I’m not sure who turns to the Wall Street Journal for marriage advice, but the whole thing sounded like one of those weird advice columns from the 1930s on how to snag and keep a man. And though one courtesy line of “men are to blame, too, because they don’t always give a clear answer” is tossed out there, the entire article skews toward blaming wives for this “marriage killer.”
The article also calls it “death by a thousand reminders.” Um, ever think about the fact that if someone has to be reminded of something a thousand times, maybe they just need to get off the freaking couch and go pick up the kids from soccer or whatever? Or possibly get treatment for ADHD?
Once I was done vomiting in my mouth and cursing out the Wall Street Journal, I put my thoughts together here.
The article quotes a lot of experts, without actually mentioning who the experts are. Article from a 1952 issue of Good Housekeeping? Vintage ad for a vacuum cleaner? Don Draper? I’m not sure.
… Women are more likely to nag, experts say, largely because they are conditioned to feel more responsible for managing home and family life. And they tend to be more sensitive to early signs of problems in a relationship. When women ask for something and don’t get a response, they are quicker to realize something is wrong. The problem is that by asking repeatedly, they make things worse.
The article helpfully adds that those “experts” also say that nagging “is exactly the type of toxic communication that can eventually sink a relationship.”
It does manage to quote one actual psychologist, Howard Markman from the University of Colorado and the Center for Marital and Family Studies.
“Nagging is an enemy of love, if allowed to persist,” Dr. Markman says.
Translation: it’s all your fault.
Here are some of the article’s stellar tips on fixing the situation:
- Soften your approach. Ask yourself, ”How can I speak in a way that is not threatening or offensive to him?”
- Write your requests on Post-It notes, adding little smiley faces or hearts.
- Write notes from the appliances that need to be fixed. ”I really need your help,” a recent plea began. “I am really backed up and in a lot of discomfort.” It was signed “your faithful bathtub drain.”
- Ask yourself: Rather than lazy and unloving, is your husband overworked and tired?
- Don’t take it personally when he doesn’t respond.
Are you freaking kidding me? Write notes to him from the appliances? This isn’t Handy Manny, it’s life, and my husband is not a five-year-old. And put hearts and smiley faces on it? That would be totally nifty if I was a twelve-year-old girl passing notes in math class, but I’m a grown-up. As a side note, in our house I just fix the damn drain myself. It’s not rocket science.
Also, don’t take it personally when he doesn’t respond? What. The. Hell. I hope the Wall Street Journal doesn’t take it personally when I give them a big eff you for your craptastic reporting.
I do try to avoid nagging my husband. I’m not his mom, and he’s perfectly capable of getting crap done. On the other hand, his brain is so full of academic knowledge, that he tends to forget stuff, leading to me affectionately calling him “The Absent-Minded Professor.” However, he knows this about himself, and doesn’t take offense when I remind him to do important stuff, like calling the doctor’s office for a prescription refill or whatever. Because otherwise he really will forget. And while I don’t want to “nag,” I also want him to get his blood pressure and cholesterol meds so that he doesn’t keel over any time soon. So, you know, it’s a balance.
The biggest part of this article that’s pissing me off is that it doesn’t really address the fact that it might also be really freaking annoying if you’ve asked your spouse to change that really high light bulb forty freaking times, and he or she still hasn’t done it. Passive-aggressive behavior involves two people. So does a marriage.
Nagging is definitely a crappy communication technique, and there are ways to have better communication in a marriage. You can check out How to Solve Nagging with Feminism, for example.
Oh, and here’s the kicker: the Wall Street Journal piece was written by a woman. Elizabeth Bernstein is also the author of such gems as “Putting the Honey Back In ‘Honey, I’m Home” and an article explaining the delicate negotiation techniques involved in getting your spouse to dress up for Halloween. Thanks, Ms. Bernstein, for setting the clock back for us all.
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Manjari commented on Feb 01 12 at 10:39 amI love this post! You know why I don’t nag my husband? I don’t have to. He’s always ready to help me when he’s home from work, and I only need to ask him once. Now the kids, on the other hand….
Kristen commented on Feb 01 12 at 10:42 am“This isn’t Handy Manny, this is life” — I almost spit out my drink! LOL! :)
I’m with you 100%… I’ll add that Howard Markman has some great things to say about marriage and relationships and, in my belief, would have also thrown up a little in his mouth over this article. Just in case anyone was wondering. :)
Natalie B commented on Feb 01 12 at 10:58 amHahaha! Very funny and very true. The problem isn’t the nagging itself but what causes the nagging! I love that you told WSJ to eff off :)
Jen commented on Feb 01 12 at 11:06 amOMG. Those bulleted tips…passive aggressive much?!?! But believe it or not, this article is all kinds of reflection on my ex-marriage and the communication dysfunction. Ex equated reminders to nagging. I tried asking him and thinking of other ways I could approach him so that he wouldn’t see it as nagging. Ex came up with nada. Ex became increasingly eye-rolly and dismissive. I took it personally. How could I not? So yeah, eff you, WSJ!!!
Chris Alexander commented on Feb 01 12 at 11:18 amI also “nag” my husband to take his blood pressure meds. With two kids demanding your attention first thing in the morning and work stuff whirling around in his head, sometimes he forgets. As for chores, I follow my mom’s example. Ask once or twice, if it’s not done in a reasonable time frame, then jerry-rig it yourself. It’s amazing how fast they’ll want to fix something the right way rather than leave the half-assed way you did it.
Andrea commented on Feb 01 12 at 11:39 am“…nagging can make him feel like a little boy being scolded by his mother.” However, he’ll feel like a mature, responsible adult when you he finds your post-it notes adorned with hearts and smilies!
Mika commented on Feb 01 12 at 11:41 amWow. I have no other words. Just…wow. I can believe The Wall Street Journal would print something like this. What I can’t get over is the fact it’s a effin woman! She is obviously NOT married or has her thumb stuck so far up her ass she wants to be a mother to her husband.
Ah!!!
littlefrogs commented on Feb 01 12 at 12:19 pmYeah, I guess asking my husband to stop drinking was really out of bounds. Trying to figure out where the THOUSANDS of dollars disappeared to was out of bounds. And I guess I really was out of bounds to be upset when I found condoms in his pocket and to call him out on that. And when he blamed me, I guess I should have accepted that since I’m such a nag instead of walking out on his ass and taking my children with me.
of course, I have since then learned he was having sex with men, that he has lied about EVERYTHING for a decade but maybe… just maybe.. if I hadn’t nagged, we would still be together.
Linda, T.O.O. commented on Feb 01 12 at 12:47 pmHilarious! And spot on, Joslyn.
KateDrewThis commented on Feb 01 12 at 12:50 pm“Passive-aggressive behavior involves two people. So does a marriage.”
You’re so right. My husband actually appreciates it when I remind him to do things because…get this…he works really hard and is just as tired and forgetful as I am and knows that sometimes THINGS NEED TO GET DONE.
Oh, and he has to remind me about crap just as often. And even when it DOES bug me, I know it’s not nagging. It’s working.
Oh, and if what LITTLEFROGS said is actually true and not an exaggerated example, I vote that we buy her a margarita and she gets to punch that writer in the face.
KateDrewThis commented on Feb 01 12 at 12:51 pmYou know what. That comment I just left was wrong, in a sense. I wrote it because I was angry, but I don’t think LITTLEFROGS (or anyone else) should punch the writer in the face.
Punching people is bad.
I’m going to leave myself a sticky note with hearts on it, so that I don’t forget.
joslyngray commented on Feb 01 12 at 1:17 pmOh, Little Frogs, I’m so sorry. That’s awful.
JKearney commented on Feb 01 12 at 1:19 pmI totally agree…I cannot believe a woman wrote this article for the WSJ. There is no way in HELL I’m writing notes on behalf of my appliances…I already have enough to do!
I’m a young widow, but when my husband was alive (well, this technique really works well on any man, in my experience) you really don’t HAVE to nag. You ask once, nicely. Maybe twice, if you’re feeling benevolent. But beyond that, the script goes something like this … “Honey, I know you’re really busy so I went ahead and hired a tree surgeon to come and take that dead maple tree out of the back yard. He’s coming next Saturday’.
I friggin’ GUARANTEE you that when you take ‘his’ work away and give it to someone else he will take notice (especially if, like most men, he’s cheap and doesn’t want to pay anyone to do what he can do himself). This works even better if you say ‘Honey, never mind, I saw our neighbor Doug while I was bringing in the trash cans and he said he’d be happy to cut up the tree next time he’s in the back yard…”
Mess with a man’s perception (in his mind, anyway) that he’s the provider of all goods and services for his empire and the defender of the castle against anything that needs to be taken care of and you WILL get his attention !! Always worked like a charm for me.
michelle commented on Feb 01 12 at 1:39 pmJust want to add that when it’s men doing the nagging, it’s called “having high standards” or “being organized.”
joslyngray commented on Feb 01 12 at 2:32 pmI kind of want to start putting Post-It notes all over the house to my kids. Especially one on the toilet that says “I’m feeling very uncomfortable. Please flush me. xoxo, the Toilet.”
Becky commented on Feb 01 12 at 4:33 pm“•Ask yourself: Rather than lazy and unloving, is your husband overworked and tired?” I dunno is he? I’ll ask him when I get home from work. He’s already home becuase he didn’t have to work a full day and I have some errands to run on the way home anyways that will delay me. Then I’ll make dinner and do chores and probably let him skate by for the rest of the evening because it’s easier than “nagging” him to do anything. Jeez, like only one partner can be “overworked” and/or “tired”.
Brandi commented on Feb 01 12 at 5:12 pmIf my shower drain left my husband a note it would read: “Get your wife’s hair out of my f’ing drain, lazy ass!” I don’t think a smiley face would help. LOL
littlefrogs commented on Feb 01 12 at 7:13 pmKate..
It isn’t an exaggeration.. honestly, that was only a tip of the iceberg. In fact, for the last two years of our marriage, I did 100% of the child raising because he wasn’t safe to be left alone with the children and I worked full time as well. Plus I did a majority of the laundry, cooking, shopping etc. I took my eldest to speech therapy and OT every week. I did all of the communication with school, all the IEPs, everything. Plus take my husband to his therapy appointments.
I would have to ‘nag’ him for WEEKS to mow the lawn on his riding lawnmower. Sometimes it was all he could do to walk down the stairs. Frankly, all he did do was take care of his legal obligations due to his DUI after he crashed the car for the second time in three months. (Mind you, the first was one week after his first detox).
But in his eyes, I”m the bad guy because I stole his children and he was a good father because he rough housed witht he boys.
jenny tries too hard commented on Feb 01 12 at 7:41 pmIf I left the note featured above for my husband (or rather if “the bathtub” wrote it for him) I would soon find a bottle of Ex-Lax over the drain. Being “funny” and passive-aggressive definitely does go both ways.
I’m surprised no one has mentioned having a nagging “safe word”; it’s what worked for me and my husband. When one partner is getting too naggy, the one who is being nagged can invoke it, but then he/she has to defend him/herself and explain why the thing in question hasn’t been done, why it isn’t the naggee’s responsibility or doesn’t need to be done, or whatever. Then if there’s an issue besides forgetfulness/procrastination underneath, the couple gets to fight about *that* without it becoming “you never do what you say you will” vs. “you nag me all the time”. It makes me really think about whether something needs to be done now or at all, makes my husband less likely to procrastinate/leave his work stuff on the couch.
Amy Jones commented on Feb 01 12 at 10:53 pmNagging is a symptom of a deeper thing women want — connection and attention. When women feel they don’t have another way to have their desire or needs heard, they resort to nagging or complaining in the hopes that it will garner more of a response(i.e attention) from their partner, even a negative one. I work for a company called OneTaste, where our mission is to help people create deeper connection through the practice of orgasm. We see this type of dynamic in our married clients all the time. When a woman is nagging her partner for something that seems trivial in his eyes, what she really wants is to to be heard and acknowledged for what she wants. It boils down to the idea, that at a core level, women want attention from men, and men want approval from women. Women can learn to speak their desires in a way that communicates approval , and men can meet those desires and give the attention and connection she is seeking. When a man can show up to meet a woman’s desire and a woman can show a man approval, an entirely new world of marriage and partnership is possible. How do we encourage a more open dialogue between men and women around the REAL needs? Where does that begin?
Suzie commented on Feb 02 12 at 7:01 amOK…LIttleFrogs, I am sorry about what happened to you…and to all else, yeah, men can be lazy assholes….BUT…I kind of think that some women actually DO nag too much. I have a friend who seems to have a good husband, he actually fixes thing around the house, he works his job, etc. he watches the kid so she can go on girls night…and then at girls night she just bitches about how rotten he is and doesn’t do anything. I can only imagine the shit she gives him at home…and then same (and same type) of chick go on about not having sex with their husbands for six weeks. So…yeah, stop nagging and put out for your husband. The drunk, cheating, money spending examples are outliers, I think this article is just talking about the regular, good working men and how women often just harp on them about bullshit all the time.
littlefrogs commented on Feb 02 12 at 8:17 amSuzie,
What makes you think that the naggers for no reason are any less of an outlier than the drunk, cheaters?
Suzie commented on Feb 02 12 at 8:44 amMaybe then women just like to talk about how crappy and lame their husbands are when they’re out with other women and they DON’T then nag at home? I hear an awful lot of complaints about husbands and so I guess I assume these women also then nag the husbands. If *I* wish these women would STFU and I only go out with them once a month or so, I can only imagine how their husbands must want them to STFU. Unless they just save their bitching for girls night out, which I don’t get. Who wants to hear that crap?
lostnewwife commented on Feb 06 12 at 7:50 pmI am a new wife my husband and have a daughter and she is going to be one in 9 days. I work 40-50 hrs and go to school and he just sits at home with his homeless friend that moved in and eats and plays video games . He won’t even bath our child . He also won’t ever clean the house and when I ask him too he says stop nagging . So when I come I’m thinking I’m stepping into a clean house nope it is dirtier then before wtf. He also won’t make any phone calls or pay his own credit cards online he makes me do it. So any advice would be great .
Valerie commented on Feb 06 12 at 8:07 pmI Will read the articles more thoroughly in a moment, but I’m sure the writer of the article for the Wall Street Journal scored some ladder-climbing Brownie points with her “fellow ” Wall Streeters…mostly male I’m sure. Maybe she couldn’t climb the ladder the old-fashioned way so she takes the “one of the guys ” mentality, and then what do ya know ?she’s in like Flynn and getting more articles in the paper and making a name for herself ….like I said , I will reread a little more thoroughly and objectively …if I can.
Anonymous commented on Feb 06 12 at 8:08 pmNow, I want you to listen closely: not everything is an attack on women!! Get over it. I haven’t read the article yet, but from the way you’re going on, geez. It sounds like the article was written by a woman, for other women. No, she’s not addressing the husband’s role in it, because she’s speaking only from her experience, in the wife’s role! Have you ever thought about that? Or do you automatically jump to the conclusion that anything aimed at just one gender is misogynistic? Really?
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How about this. If this were an article in, say, a men’s magazine, it would be totally one-sided, but from the opposite perspective. “Men, shape up. Your wives are nagging you because you don’t freaking listen! This is disrespectful and you need to do a better job. It’s your responsibility to change the light bulb when she asks — or better yet, if you notice it needs done — so she doesn’t get frustrated.” Now, would you read that and think that the author hated men? NO!!! So why do you read this article and conclude that the author hates women and therefore is ‘setting back’ feminism? I AM SO TIRED OF THIS LINE OF THINKING!!!!
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The absolute truth is, both men and women are at fault here. Women shouldn’t nag, and men should get off their (potentially) lazy butts and do what needs done. But, see, if I were writing advice, I’d write — surprise!! — from MY perspective as the wife. I’d let my husband give advice to the men. That is ALL this is, and you are getting your panties in a twist over absolutely nothing. Grow up — the world isn’t out to get you.
MargieK commented on Feb 07 12 at 12:09 pmMy husband nags; not me! He’s also a control freak; if it isn’t done HIS WAY, it isn’t “done.” I clicked on the link to this article, hoping I might find something I could show him that would convince him to change his ways. Not very useful for me. :(
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