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Mothers, You Can Be Friends With Your Daughters

Posted by stephanieprecourt on October 18th, 2011 at 7:21 pm
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Best friends forever? Mothers can have healthy friendships with their daughters.

I could be totally naive or maybe my daughter is too young for me to tell if we’ll stay friends throughout her childhood, but right now she says I’m her best friend, and most days she’s mine. And I love it.

So as you can imagine, I read Eve Vawter’s piece at MommyishI Don’t Want To Be My Daughter’s BFF, with extreme interest. 

The relationship I have with my daughter Ivy is one of the most precious things in my life right now, to be honest. Of course, she is only three-years-old and I am in store for a lot, I’m sure. I can see where Eve is coming from — not wanting to be a BFF if it means giving in to her every wish and irresponsible choice. But, can’t you still be the best of friends without buying “her a thong when she is 16″ and turning her into your “own little pal”?

She asks, “Do we really need to be shortchanging our kid’s childhood just so we can prove how open-minded and progressive we are to the world?” I agree — I don’t want that either, but I also want to give my child some credit and not assume that in order to be friends with her that I will need to be any different than who I already am, much like I hope she will never feel the need to conform in order to be liked or someone’s best friend, or girlfriend. I think a mother-daughter friendship can fall into place without either person changing who they are, as any friendship should be.

Instead of refusing best-friendship with my daughter, I will teach her that the moms (and anyone, really) who try to be someone that they aren’t in order to be liked — those moms on TV that let their daughters dress inappropriately or make questionable choices that they might not be mature enough to understand — really aren’t acting like a best friend at all.

A true best friend is good for you, is someone that encourages and is a good influence. Who better to teach my child an example of a best friend than I, her mother? I can’t expect to remain at the top of her list to play or hang out as she grows up, but I’ll treasure our friendship always. I’ll be there no matter what…  from what I can recall, my best friend was always the person who was still there when the superficial girls and boys lost their luster or left me behind. I can be that, and her mother. At least, I’ll try. I will give myself the benefit of the doubt that I’ll be able to distinguish between those two roles, which I am finding is one of the most difficult, mysterious, and amazing parts of motherhood.

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19 Comments

This is really sweet, Steph. Obviously you know I don’t have any daughters, and I know you have 3 boys, too. I get that there are some things I just won’t understand about the relationship, not having a daughter and growing up with all sisters (so I never saw a mother-son relationship), but *how* is this relationship/friendship with your daughter different than those you have with your sons? Why is it easier or more common for mothers to see themselves in their daughters than their sons? I see bits of me in all my boys, but I don’t know how different it would be with a girl. (I think you know me well enough to know I ask all of this out of curiosity and without any trace of negativity or skepticism.) Hope I’m not sidetracking too much from your post….

Elizabeth commented on Oct 18 11 at 7:41 pm

I think I just went on the mother-daughter angle because of the Mommyish article that sparked my response. But I don’t see it as any different with my boys. In fact, I think my boys would probably consider me their best friends, too. I am sure as they grow I’ll see more obvious differences to elaborate on all of this (like when girls only want to hang with girls and boys want to play with boys and Mom is not included), but for now I’m along for the ride!

Steph

Stephanie Precourt commented on Oct 18 11 at 7:45 pm

My mom and I had our rough moments growing up, but for the most part, she was always my best friend. When I was 16, I worked 4-8 at Subway every Thursday and I’d come home, shower, and then we’d watch ER together and rub each other’s feet and just talk. It was really nice to have that kind of relationship where even as a teenager, I still really, really liked my mom.

Erin commented on Oct 18 11 at 7:55 pm

Yes. This, so much.

I haven’t read the article, but it frustrates me to no end that so many people automatically equate “being my kid’s friend” with “letting them get away with whatever they want so they’ll think I’m cool.” Like you say, that’s not really being much of a friend at all.

My daughters are my friends, already. And my mother is my friend. I love hanging out with her, and I love hanging out with my girls, and I can be and am completely honest with all of them. It is possible for parents and kids to be friends, and still be parents and kids. It just, maybe, requires more effort.

Louise commented on Oct 18 11 at 7:56 pm

Are you best friends with your mother? I think the best friends part comes after the mother stops “parenting” and the daughter stops needing to be “parented” and before the daughter needs to “parent” the mother – life’s cycles

Carolyn Vaughn commented on Oct 18 11 at 8:05 pm

I like your points, Steph. I wonder (since my daughter is only a year) if our friendships with our daughters will ebb and flow. When they’re little, we’ll be friends and parents and our daughters will be good with us being both. I believe kids need a parent, they need guidance, they need boundaries and discipline. I will want to be careful that I am first a parent and a friend second.

Kristy commented on Oct 18 11 at 8:06 pm

As someone who actually feels she suffered from having a friend in her mother (to this day boundaries in that relationship are hard to defend) I can’t say that I want anything to do with befriending my daughter in a “best” sort of way. Maybe I’m too far in the other direction – having felt that I was not taught the rules of life or prepared for relationships outside of my family well … but I make it a point to not be my daughter’s (who is 6 1/2 now) “friend”.

Are we friendly? Absolutely! Do I encourage and play with her? Every day. Am I making it a point to have one on one time with her where we do things that “friends” do together? Yes.

Will I categorize myself as her friend? No. I think she learns about relationships, obviously, from being in them in our home – mine and hers, her and her dad, her brother and other friends. Those are all great things and wonderful things we applaud and encourage – but am I going to seek out my daughter when I need a friend? Absolutely not.

Maybe that’s the line for me – I was always thought of as my mom’s friend and not the other way around. I wasn’t given the choice to seek outside council. I was depended on. And I refuse to put that kind of emotional baggage on my own child. So maybe it’s not that we’re “not friends” and more than I’m not willing to claim her for myself – which I think is a selfish parental act. (and a difficult one to lay down too)

jodimichelle commented on Oct 18 11 at 8:12 pm

I don’t think a mother ever stops mothering her child or a child ever stops needing their parent. Just ask any adult who has lost both parents – we’re like old orphans. I love my girls and my son, and I am glad to be an adult with them and to be their friend. Every stage of a child/adolescent/teen/adult’s life has stages, and as parents we just keep needing to adjust – the kids do too:) So, when you’re ready to pull your hair out (somewhere between the time when they hit 12 to 18 years old), just step back and remember your job as a role model and guide. You’ve been there, they haven’t.

Megan without an "h" commented on Oct 18 11 at 8:30 pm

I think the difference between my role as a mother to my daughter (who just turned 17 today) and my role as a friend to other women, is that parents and children are not equals. One day, we can get closer to that. But, there are things that I won’t and shouldn’t confide in my daughter (that is was “friends” are for). And my job, as someone said, is to be a role model, a teacher, a guide. We are at different places in our lives and I need to respect those boundaries.

That being said, my daughter and I have a special relationship. And she and I have a lot of fun things that we do, and some of them are only understood by us. And it is our thing. But, friendship, to me, means something else entirely.

inthefastlane commented on Oct 18 11 at 9:19 pm

I do agree- that is going to be something I must remember. It’s a different kind of friendship, but I do think it is a form of friendship that can exist in a healthy way. It’s hard to put in words how a mom can be a parent and a friend without it being taken negatively and assumed that I’ll choose the friend portion over the mothering. If that makes any sense! And I can only imagine how my perspective will change as my children grow older. (My oldest is 10.)

Steph

Stephanie Precourt commented on Oct 18 11 at 9:38 pm

Well said jodi!!

;) commented on Oct 18 11 at 9:58 pm

I agree with other commenters-it’s not the same kind of relationship as say a “best friend” from school and it’s important to maintain appropriate boundaries. But mother-daughter can & should be a special & unique relationship full of intense love, trust, & fun!

Crunchy Con Mommy commented on Oct 18 11 at 10:40 pm

I think it’s partly a problem of definitions. You don’t “hang out” with your daughter, she’s not a confidant. And she doesn’t play house with you and fight over who gets the purple crayon. You are on different levels, and you will be on different levels until she’s an adult. It’s problematic when people try to be their kid’s bff because that is a particular type if relationship, which is pretty artificial. It reduces the parent to the level of teenager and shirks the real responsibility of caring for this other human being. Your daughter isn’t your best friend, she’s just the person in your life who you enjoy more than anyone. :-). And sure she says you are her best friend… but she might also say she wants to marry Daddy. Obviously that does not mean she understands what that adult relationship means… she just loves you both in ways that her 3 year old vocabulary is inadequate to express.

Meagan commented on Oct 18 11 at 11:20 pm

My teenage daughter and I are unusually close, but we’re not friends. She’s the daughter and I’m the mother. She’s free to tell me anything she wuld like to share, but it would be completely inappropriate for me to reciprocate. That doesn’t mean I don’t enjoy her interests and her company and lazy evenings cuddling on the couch while we watch a movie. She is my heart. I just find the concept of parents saying they are their childrens’ friends to be rather odd.

Linda, t.o.o. commented on Oct 19 11 at 12:52 am

I agree completely with Carolyn Vaughn, my relationship with my mother has been a cycle. As a child, teen and young adult, I wouldn’t of categorized my mother as my friend. We had a wonderful relationship, I had fun with her, spent tons of time together, were extremely close, but we weren’t what I would consider friends, she was my mother. She set limits and boundaries, rules, expectations. It’s only been within the last, say 3 or 4 years, where I’ve started to consider her a friend. (I’m 28). As I’ve now gotten married, started a career and now starting a family, the “parenting” aspect never completely disappears, but I call and chat with her in much the same way as I do with my best friends. Granted, she still buys me dinner when we’re together and will still foot the bill for the occasional new outfit when we’re shopping (I hope this never goes away :)) but our relationship has morphed slowly and gradually away from parent/child to the very best of friends and I love it! With that said, I do see where Jodi is coming from and have friends in similar relationships with their “parents”. It could go much differently.

Neeley commented on Oct 19 11 at 10:43 am

My youngest is 3–he’s my little sidekick. He comes to work with me, we go to the playground together, I “play guys” (ie. action figures) with him. I do joke that he’s my best friend, just because we are almost always together. But the reality is, a true friendship is a two-way street. Yes, he can tell me when he’s mad at his brothers, but I could/would/should never tell him if I’m mad at their dad. It just isn’t a truly reciprocal relationship, which is what a friendship should be.
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Once I had grew up and had kids, though, my relationship with my own mother moved more into the friendship category. I could talk about frustrations with the children and my mom would tell me about a time when I was younger and used to drive her crazy–things she never revealed when we were still in the parent/child relationship. We still don’t talk about sex, though. :)

Snarky Mama commented on Oct 19 11 at 11:05 am

I agree with you, my daughter is still young like yours so I don’t have personal experience as a Mom of a teen and beyond. But I was a teen and I AM friends with my Mom. There was a period where that was not true (middle school is so rough), but the older I got the more and more I appreciate and like my Mom as a person and a friend as well as a Mom. I was not spoiled, I did not get things I demanded growing up. I knew who was in charge and had respect for her rules. She was a Mom and a friend and did walk that line. So I do think it’s possible because I have lived it. I can only work for and hope for as much with my daughter.

Kaycee commented on Oct 20 11 at 8:56 am

I like the part about mothers and daughters being best friends in the sense of your daughter knowing you unconditionally love and accept her as she is. In that sense, you can totally be a best friend while also fulfilling your responsibility to be a parent — to protect, discipline, teach, set limits. But why is this always framed as a mother-daughter thing? Why can’t mothers and sons be best friends without it being seen as somehow unseemly or “mama’s-boy”? Yes, I am best friends with my mom, but so is my brother — they live in the same city (NYC) and talk almost every day and get together for dinner a lot. My brother and I are in our mid-30s, btw. He’s single and successful, both financially and with the ladies. I would like to have this same kind of relationship with my son. Why not??

michelle commented on Oct 20 11 at 2:40 pm

I think this all boils down to how we are defining friendship. I consider my mom as a friend but not exactly in the same way as one of my circle of best friends. Not that she is any less, just different boundaries. I’d like it to be the same way between my kids (sons AND daughter) and me. I’d like to have that kind of closeness with my kids but I realize that their peer friendships (and their sibling relationships) will be different. I mean, my best friend isn’t going to ground me because she caught me smoking cigarettes behind the garage…I think that is just a small example of the difference.

Jane in Pa commented on Oct 20 11 at 9:02 pm

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