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Do Pat Downs at Airport Security Go Too Far? (VIDEO)

Posted by daniellesmith on July 5th, 2011 at 3:45 am
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The irony of the situation hit me like a punch in the gut.  The very same week TSA is to adjust their pat down policy on children, I have an experience that leaves me in tears.

For years I have sailed through airport security.  For the past ten years of airport travel, I have smiled and nodded, removed my shoes, every ounce of jewelry, my sunglasses, belts and, of course, all liquids tucked neatly in a clear plastic bag.

I didn’t love the idea of the body scanners.  I read the reports.  I studied the X-Ray information.  I’ve seen the pictures released to the public of what can be seen, and though there is an element that makes me uncomfortable, in the name of safety, I didn’t object.

But today?  After the most invasive pat down I have experienced, I DO OBJECT. And here’s why:

 

 Do Pat Downs at Airport Security Go Too Far? (VIDEO)

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29 Comments

It has gone WAY too far!! I am SO sorry this happened to you Danielle! I also have sailed through and never had an invasive pat down. But with the amount I travel, I know it will happen inevitably – which really concerns me!

Janice (5 Minutes for Mom) commented on Jul 05 11 at 4:10 am

I think the measures are useless. Especially the pat downs and xray machines. There are so many people who go thru security with things on the no no list even. Yes times have changed and yes terrorism sucks but terrorists could blow up a crowded mall too. Does that mean I’m going to have to go thru this when I shop? What about at a large sporting event?

Robyn Wright commented on Jul 05 11 at 6:08 am

You might want to rethink going through the x-ray scanners

http://www.prisonplanet.com/cancer-surges-in-body-scanner-operators-tsa-launches-cover-up.html

BTW>> What they don’t tell you is the x-ray scanners can not see through thick fabric folds and other things, so many people who go through are STILL subjected to an invasive pat down.

We have been “good sheep” for too long! Opt out! Fight for our 4th amendment rights. We have given up more in freedom than we have gained in security.

In addition, did you know this TSA pat down stuff isn’t even restricted to airports????????

Jen commented on Jul 05 11 at 7:55 am

I am so sorry that you went through this.

I haven’t flown since they started the “fingerings” (or “hand-ings” I guess), and I will not fly. It’s not right. I wouldn’t be able to handle these invasive patdowns, so I will no longer fly anywhere. It sucks.

BlackOrchid commented on Jul 05 11 at 9:17 am

Danielle, I think this is an important topic that more people need to stand up for. We have quietly taken on more restrictions for our safety. When we are feeling that uncomfortable something needs to be done.

Gena Morris commented on Jul 05 11 at 9:50 am

Oh Danielle, I am so sorry you had to go through that. I have been through the airport once since 9/11. I’m not a big flyer and this just makes me want to drive instead the next time there is a need for air travel. ugh. They should be giving you an answer, it is absolutely not okay to not have a reason for a pat down like that. I wonder if there is a petition for this very thing. If we have rules with what we can even bring with us when we travel… they need to have rules too.

Chele commented on Jul 05 11 at 10:19 am

I think that we all have to object when anyone of any race, creed, color or national origin gets subjected to degrading treatment as though they were subjected of a crime. I think we all have to tamp down the tendency to trade away privacy for security and shut down those who say, “well, if you have nothing to hide, then you should be okay with it.” “It” being these step by step measures that chip away at our liberties. We get complacent with how *others* are treated (oh, he looked like a thug… oh that one was dressed in muslim garb… oh, they weren’t speaking english and that made me uncomfortable) and are sent reeling when we are subjected to the same invasive manhandling. When the powers that be see how easy it is to roll over the rights of less vocal populations, don’t think that it’s going to stay within those populations… it’s being test marketed for your neighborhood. Write your legislators. You know *they* aren’t being treated the same as you and me.

Mistress_Scorpio commented on Jul 05 11 at 10:51 am

“Anyone who trades liberty for security deserves neither liberty nor security”
Benjamin Franklin

goddess commented on Jul 05 11 at 11:07 am

OMG this is horrible. Happened to me when I refused scanner. It was really uncomfortable but I wasn’t too upset because my husband stood next to me and made me feel a bit better. But luckily have flown about 5 more flights since then and have not had to do scanner. BUT I will still refuse it.

Sheena Edwards commented on Jul 05 11 at 11:21 am

Security Theater at its worst.
I went through TSA in San Antonio and was pulled out to stand in their X-ray machine. I said I objected to the radiation and the TSA guy said: “It’s not radiation, just an X-ray.”
Says it all.

Alex commented on Jul 05 11 at 1:20 pm

Until we start looking for suspicious behavior as opposed to suspicious items, nonsense like these pat downs will continue.

Amanda commented on Jul 05 11 at 1:31 pm

Danielle,

I experienced a similar situation when flying home to see my family in Des Moines at Christmastime last year. I went through the metal detector at Atlanta and was “randomly chosen” for a patdown. I did not set off the machine. I do not think I looked suspicious in any way. I am female, late 20s, long blonde hair, blue eyes, Caucasian, a middle school teacher. I was wearing an Old Navy t-shirt, fitted jeans, and tennis shoes.

I too was uncomfortable with the patdown. The two very young black girls ordered to do the patdown were shy and polite, and I honestly do not think they wanted to be doing this job. At first, the patdown consisted of nothing more than a light brushing of the hands along the bottom of my legs and arms, but the large male supervisor who stood over us watching the entire time instructed them to redo it, and they were much more aggressive the second time. He even ordered one girl to feel my breasts for a third time. He seemed to enjoy wielding his power.

What bothered me even more than the patdown, I think, is that they took all my belongings out of my sight for 25 minutes while I was held in the glass box waiting to be cleared. Fortunately, Des Moines does not have backscatter, and people (even TSA agents) in the Midwest tend to be much more pleasant to deal with than people in Atlanta, so I did not have any problems on the return flight. I have not flown since, though, and I will not fly again until the kind of passenger abuse that is now prevalent throughout the majority of the country ends.

KRISTIN commented on Jul 05 11 at 2:44 pm

I haven’t received a pat down yet, but I have gone through that machine. The machine didn’t bother me. In fact, I don’t think I’d be bothered by naked pic of me on the internet because you wouldn’t be able to see my face. That’s just me. I actually have a high tolerance for bullshit like that. I don’t get easily offended UNLESS it’s a man grabbing me, which would never happen, right? So for now, it’s just annoying and inconvenient and takes more time in my day.

Leah Segedie commented on Jul 05 11 at 3:43 pm

I’m so sorry! I remember you were still upset when I saw you at the Airport at the other end of your trip. :(

The only times I’ve gone through the Xray, I’ve gotten a pat down with it. I don’t understand what sets it off. I’ve worn maxi dresses also with no issues. Seems a bit much to do the pat down after the xray, especially when I have no metal in my body. DH gets the fully pat down every time as he has 2 false hips, but he’s never said they’ve crossed a line in it. Is it only women who get that “special” treatment?

Emily - @ColoradoMom commented on Jul 05 11 at 5:12 pm

It’s happened to me several times. It happened to my then-four-year-old once (she was very upset about it, even though the screener was a nice lady – I think my child was convinced that she had done something wrong). Flying is no fun anymore. I’d rather travel nearly any other way.

anon commented on Jul 05 11 at 5:17 pm

I think that if you’re going to be paid to post on a blog, you ouight to be required to actually write your story down. This *click on my video* bit ia new Strollerderby low. So completely lazy and stupid.

Linda t.o.o. commented on Jul 05 11 at 7:33 pm

I get pat down every time. My underwire bras always trigger the metal detector (unless I wear a swimsuit for support instead, not fun). I think the scanners are an invasion of privacy. Most pat downs I’ve had were uneventful, but I did once get separated from my children when a TSA employee (they are not officers, no matter what kind of outfit they wear) stopped them from accompanying me by stepping between us and actually blocking their path. Thankfully, the pat down employee realized that I was not a terrorist when I reacted. The TSA gets away with this because Americans are unwilling to take a stand on this crap. These measures do not make us safer. Think of all the things that still get by. Think of the backside of the airport, of all the people who go in and out all day long. Where there is a will, there is a way. Our expectations of safety in general are unreasonable, and give rise to violations like this in the name of a security we will never have.

lam commented on Jul 05 11 at 9:43 pm

I have always thought, and still believe, the invasive security measures are not designed for our protection at all. They use fear to create a way in to slowly take our human rights away. They want usto be afraid of ‘terrorists’ bombing planes so that we will allow all sorts of ludacris procedures to occur until we can’t take it anymore and accept chip implantation to avoid such a thing (or something of the like). The truth is, if someone is going to bomb a plane they will because it’s a very internal political thing. No one wants to believe this thouigh, so instead we will allow stupid laws and rules because we believe that these people want to keep us safe when it is simply not going to keep us safe. Until the world decides to say NO, enough is enough and refuse to fly under these circumstances we will only see it get worse. I disagree that times have changed and this is necessary.

Angela commented on Jul 08 11 at 9:39 am

It’s all Security Theater. TSA serves no purpose other than to given 50,000 sad, pathetic, insignificant and mediocre people a chance to abuse what little power they have. Mite I suggest the next time this happens, if there is a next time, while being groped, pull a “When Harry Met Sally” moment. Sigh and moan loudly all the while instructing the groper to “move a little more to the left…YES!!! THAT’S THE SPOT!”

Calvin commented on Jul 08 11 at 3:18 pm

To me, the worst part of the whole airport experience is that there doesn’t seem to be a standard. On one flight play-dough is fine, on the next it is taken away. I have traveled with formula dozens of times and then, suddenly, out of the blue, my bags are searched while I am alone trying to wrangle three kids under three years old. I have asked the same question, “What can I do to avoid this in the future?” Sadly, there is no answer to the question. The rules are constantly changing and depend upon who is enforcing them. I am sorry for your experience and hope that you get some sort of response from costumer service.

Aviva commented on Jul 12 11 at 5:47 pm

I agree it is “Security Theater”. If a police officer touched you like that without probable cause he could be held for assault. Just because you buy a plane ticket does not mean you sign away all your rights. Sadly the general population are sheep, they submit because “someone” tells them it is for their own good , i.e. safety/security. We have abdicated so much of our personal responsibility to others that we willingly submit to invasion and fear mongering without question. Until the backscanners are independently tested by a group that has zero financial interests I will not allow myself or my son to go through one. My hope is more states follow the small initiative of Texas and propose/pass laws that make the groping by TSA a criminal offense. We teach our children to not let others touch them, yet then we subject them mindlessly to the TSA groping? If I didn’t work in the aviation industry I would probably drive where I need to go, but sadly this is not an option for me.

Anna commented on Jul 12 11 at 5:47 pm

I have had my own bad experience with security. My, at the time, 9 month old son touched the wall of a metal detector and the security people saw him, but they still insisted on patting him down and looking into his diaper, “just to make sure”, they said.
I think there is a better way to handle security without harassing or demeaning people. I also think some of these people are on a power trip.
So Sorry you had to be violated in such a way.

Malissa commented on Jul 12 11 at 5:48 pm

NO!!! I have a hard time going through security every single time. They have no respect for gender specific pat downs and no respect for women who may not be 100% ok with being touched! I would love to hear that someone who has been patted down like that has gone forward and filed a sexual assault law suit against them. That would make my day :) Good for you for speaking out

brit commented on Jul 12 11 at 5:51 pm

They allow rapists and pedophiles to work the pat downs due to equal employment opportunitys act, and i have heard cases where children were groped and imapropatly touched in there nether regends. i find it sick and sad that something of this nature happened.. id rather walk or swim then have to go through that. Sadly even cartoons are saying this is ok , bubble guppies had an episode that went through the processes and the crab rubbing his back claw all over the characters…lets just say that is not a show i will ever let my children watch. we teach our children innapropriate touching is wrong no matter what. what message is this sending.

Diana commented on Jul 12 11 at 5:53 pm

The pat downs isn’t the only thing that needs to be changed. I flew to California from Chicago. My suitcase was overweight so I paid the $50 extra. I get to Cali but my suitcase didn’t for almost three days of my seven day vacation. Then I finally get my suitcase and I can’t wear my clothes until they have been washed because someone had dumped my sea salts (to clean a belly button peircing) and my shampoo and conditioner into my clothes. I know it was dumped because the bags they were in were clean on the inside and zipped closed. I know my bags were checked because of the nice note they left inside. I felt violated because this was not someone doing their job but being malicious.

Amber commented on Jul 12 11 at 7:14 pm

Sounds like a great job for all those pervs and pedophiles out there to get their jollies; doesn’t seem to have impacted security in any way–except to make anyone subject to these invasive “pat-downs” feel insecure!!!

Dolores commented on Jul 12 11 at 7:24 pm

How are u suppose to teach your children that strangers aren’t suppose to touch u

Carol commented on Jul 12 11 at 8:00 pm

I agree that sometimes things are taken too far. But I think sometimes we forget that we would be very upset if a person is allowed access to a plane that we would be on with our children/family with a potential dangerous item (bomb, knife, etc). It is a fine line that is easily crossed and hard to define. Security is constantly changing due to issues that come up or become more lax because threats are less. It is very difficult to keep up with all these changes.
Also to the last person that responded…..every TSA employee goes through a very extensive background check before being hired. They do not have rapists, kidnappers, murders, etc working there. It is actually quite hard to get a government job with a criminal background.

Jen commented on Jul 12 11 at 8:14 pm

calvin, lol! i love your suggestion! :)

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