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Alabama Passes Pain-Capable Unborn Child Protection Act, Sixth State to Make Abortion Illegal After 20 Weeks
Yesterday the Alabama State Senate approved the Pain-Capable Unborn Child Protection Act making it illegal for women to have an abortion after their 20th week of pregnancy.
The state’s House of Representatives voted 66 to 19 in favor of the bill and the Senate passed the bill by a 26 to 5 vote margin. Alabama now joins Idaho, Indiana, Kansas, Oklahoma, and Nebraska in banning abortion after 20 weeks of gestation.
Before this bill, Alabama state law allowed abortion up to the stage of fetal viability, usually between 24 and 26 weeks gestation. The 20-week abortion ban would now make it a felony to perform an abortion after that time unless the woman’s pregnancy puts her at risk of death or substantial physical harm.
This bill takes into account that pre-born babies can feel pain early on:
“Modern medical science furnishes us with compelling evidence that unborn children recoil from painful stimuli, that their stress hormones increase when they are subjected to any painful stimuli, and that they require anesthesia for fetal surgery,” Mary Spaulding Balch, a spokeswoman for the national pro-life group, said in a statement. “Therefore, the states have a compelling interest in protecting unborn children who are capable of feeling pain from abortion.”
State Senator Scott Beason who sponsored the bill said that “for a long time the womb was an unknown universe, and I think Roe vs. Wade was based on the idea that so much was not known.”
The bill makes no exceptions for cases of rape or incest.
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Alabama Passes Pain-Capable Unborn Child Protection Act, Sixth State to Make Abortion Illegal After 20 Weeks | Foundation Life commented on Jun 14 11 at 7:54 pmstarrsitter commented on Jun 13 11 at 10:00 pmThis accuracy of this assertion has been questioned by real doctors who actually study this (as opposed to people who run anti-abortion organizations) many times.
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The bottom line is that regardless of your position on abortion, you should be concerned when extremist religious beliefs and junk science are used to create legislation.
Lindsay commented on Jun 13 11 at 10:19 pmI consider myself pro-choice, but aren’t abortions after 20 weeks pretty rare? I think that if you need an abortion, you need to have it done as early as possible in the pregnancy. Unless it’s a medically neccessary procedure or if the fetus has a severe birth defect.
Andrea commented on Jun 13 11 at 11:02 pmI agree with this legislation. Beginning of life decisions should be made with the same criteria as end of life decisions. If there is awareness, neural activity, brain activity, sensitivity to pain, then murder is off the table. For any reason. Once the brain is active, a person exists. A person capable of feeling, thought, and emotion. Under no circumstances should abortion be permitted when a human has come into existence. No more so than we would disconnect life support. It’s just not acceptable.
goddess commented on Jun 14 11 at 12:34 am“Under no circumstances” Andrea? Really?
Angela commented on Jun 14 11 at 4:12 amPersonally I feel like abortion shouldn’t be used as a form of birth control and would never consider it for myself except in very extenuating circumstances (i.e. I needed it to save my life). The idea of thoughtlessly terminating a late-term pregnancy simply because the baby isn’t wanted is especially heinous to me, but I honestly feel that it’s pretty rare. Virtually every story I’ve heard of late-term abortions involve heart-wrenching decisions to terminate wanted pregnancies because of severe defects or complications.
The truth is that any pregnancy puts a woman “at risk of death or substantial physical harm,” although in most pregnancies it is relatively low. So would a woman need a 90% chance of serious harm to qualify or would 50/50 be ok? What about a 25% or even 10% chance? Or what about fetuses who are found to have severe defects incompatible with life? Or a woman who was raped but there wasn’t enough evidence to convict or the case is still at trial? I’m not pro-abortion by any means but I don’t think politicians are the ones I want making these decisions. I’m not pro-abortion by any means but I really think these decisions are best made on an individual basis by the woman in question.
the orginal Sarah commented on Jun 14 11 at 8:35 amSo, Andrea, can we assume that you are caring for a whole house full of children, most of whom you’ve either adopted or are fostering because their mothers are too mentally unstable or drug dependant to care for them? You’re probably had to have your home altered to be handicap accessible for your foster kids with the severest of disabilities due to their lack of prenatal care. You probably volunteer at a rape counseling center, supporting people who have been raped and are now pregnant. You must also volunteer at programs that teach young, poor, and unprepared mothers how to care for their children. You’re probably also working some kind of job where you are an aide for kids with learning disabilities due to their fetal alcohol syndrome. I’ll bet you support complete, comprehensive sex education with an emphasis on birth control and lobby the government to support welfare and food stamps for low income parents. I mean, with a stance like no abortions ever for any reason, you must really be doing your part to prevent unwanted pregnancies in the first place and helping all those women and children effected by such a stance. Bravo!
lam commented on Jun 14 11 at 9:26 amI had an abortion after 20 weeks due to severe fetal anomaly that was not detected until 19 weeks. I was under the care of an OB/Gyn the entire time, I had every check up, exam, and ultrasound I was supposed to have. They simply didn’t see it until my fetus was larger. Even after the initial diagnosis, further testing was required which took even more time. None of you or anyone else has the right to tell me or another woman that we must bear a severely diseased or malformed fetus. Not one of the women I met in the course of my termination was having an abortion because of carelessness. We all loved and desperately wanted our babies, but decided that there is, in fact, a fate worse than fetal death. These choices are agonizing, but we have a right to make them privately with our physicians.
Bunnytwenty commented on Jun 14 11 at 9:26 am“I consider myself pro-choice, but aren’t abortions after 20 weeks pretty rare?”
Extremely rare – it’s nearly impossible to find a doctor who will perform one. These laws are unnecessary, degrading to women, and will cause tremendous suffering to women who are ill or carrying fetuses that are not expected to survive. All-around horrible stuff.
Angela commented on Jun 14 11 at 10:01 amI just wanted to point out that in end of life we don’t say that under no circumstances should life support be ended. It happens all the time and often it’s the patients themselves who are requesting that treatment be stopped (or not started at all).
Chris commented on Jun 14 11 at 10:01 amAs far as compelling arguments go, noting that fetuses “recoil from painful stimuli, that their stress hormones increase when they are subjected to any painful stimuli,” etc., ranks pretty low. It could apply to any animal, essentially. Would the conservative religious types that craft this legislation find similar reasoning a persuasive argument against eating meat? I doubt it. Pain is not their concern, although they act compassionate. Controlling other people’s sexuality is their primary motive.
starrsitter commented on Jun 14 11 at 10:45 amPeople get upset about “late-term” abortions without knowing any facts. Approximately 1.4% of abortions (in the US) take place after 20 weeks. The overwhelming majority of them occur because of catastrophic fetal abnormality or imminent threat to the health or life of the woman. The remainder happen primarily because a) the woman was mistaken about how far along she was or b) she had difficulty finding both access to and funding for an abortion. In a recent study 56% of women said they wished that they could have had the procedure done sooner (which is saying something since just over 90% happen in the first trimester), but couldn’t afford it yet or couldn’t find a provider.
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Providing women with safe, affordable access to early abortions along with accelerating efforts to provide comprehensive sexual health education and make reliable contraceptives affordable would do a lot more than standing outside providers with signs screaming at women.
Bunnytwenty commented on Jun 14 11 at 10:48 amLam: so sorry for your loss. It is precisely because of situations like yours that laws like this are so cruel and unnecessary, and that our right to choose needs to be protected.
And yes, Chris, you’re absolutely right: pro-lifers claim to care about babies, but their main concern is policing women’s sexuality. The proof? Ask them what sort of penalty they would apply if a woman had an abortion. Very few of them would say that she should go to jail, which proves to me that they don’t think abortion is really murder. (And of course, they also don’t care at all what happens to babies after they’re born.)
Amanda commented on Jun 14 11 at 10:50 amChris – Comparing the pain felt by human babies (or fetuses, if you prefer) to that of animals eaten for meat is ridiculous. Most “conservative religious types” don’t value the life an animal as much as the life of a human – and I’m guessing that most liberal secualr types don’t either.
starrsitter commented on Jun 14 11 at 10:51 amMost “conservative religious types” also don’t value the life of a woman as much as they do zygotes/embryos/fetuses, either. Nor do they value children who are actually born as they cut WIC, Head Start, Title X funding, maternal block grants, funding for childhood vaccinations and other healthcare programs for the poor, education, etc…
goddess commented on Jun 14 11 at 11:24 amLam- I’m so sorry to hear what you went through. ((hugs))
Chris commented on Jun 14 11 at 11:36 amAmanda, pain is pain, as far as I can tell. I don’t see why calling it what it is is ridiculous (and I’m a comfortable meat-eater, btw). My point is not that anti-choice zealots are hypocrites about killing, it’s that their concerns about pain are BS. If they were truly concerned about pain they could introduce a whole raft of legislation relating to bettering human and animal welfare. But I guess they’ll leave that up to the liberal secular types.
lam commented on Jun 14 11 at 11:37 amWhether or not a fetus is a “person”, defined by our assumptions and observations about their experience of pain, thought, and feeling, is really not the end of the abortion debate. We execute, we euthanize, we cease intervention to support life. We do choose to end the lives of other humans. These are choices made with great consideration and agony, but we still make them. We have to be able to discuss abortion beyond the concept of what “life” is, or who is a “person”. We have to acknowledge that choices of this nature must sometimes be made.
@Bunnytwenty & @Goddess – Thanks. That’s just scratching the surface. That experience redefined my whole emotional/psychological/intellectual/political spectrum.
Andrea commented on Jun 14 11 at 3:26 pm@the Original Sarah – it would help if you read my posts before responding knee-jerk. I said AFTER detectable neural activity there should be no abortion. Best estimates for that are about 16 weeks. It would of course be different for every woman/baby, but once the fetus has neural and brain synapse activity, it is no longer a fetus, but a person. We do not withdraw life support because patients are critically injured. We withdraw it because they are brain dead. The brain is what makes us human. We don’t euthanize burn victims because their injuries are horrible. It is unacceptable to terminate a person who can think, feel, react. I am obviously against the death penalty, and just for the record, I’m also an aetheist.
goddess commented on Jun 14 11 at 4:44 pmI’d like advanced directives that WOULD permit euthanasia in the case of severe burns- and a myriad of other conditions with which I do not associate a good quality of life.
Lamlover commented on Jun 14 11 at 7:50 pmLAM – I’m so sorry for your loss. It’s stories like yours that need to be heard. These politicians don’t stop to see the shades of gray when they are making and voting on legislation like this. Their short-sightedness only allows them to see in black and white. Until a tragedy happens to them, or someone they love.
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