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Staten Island Kids Charged With Hate Crime Held Without Bail
The two kids in Staten Island who have been accused of hate crimes after attacking a Muslim classmate are being held without bail in a juvenile detention center.
While I get that the kids need to face their crimes, which were dreadful, as far as I’m concerned, holding them without bail still seems a little severe.
Authorities say that last month, Osman Daramy, 12, and Krystal Callender, 13, allegedly beat up a girl from their class outside of Berta Dreyfus Intermediate School 49 in Staten Island, NY, and attempted to rip off her religious headscarf. Prosecutors also allege they tried to steal the girl’s money and cell phone and were yelling the word “terrorist” at her. They have been charged with assault as a hate crime.
The New York Daily News reports both children were taken out of a family courthouse directly to a juvenile corrections van after a judge ruled the pair be held without bail.
“Based on [Callender's] history, I do believe she is capable of committing another crime,” the judge said.
Callender has a pending case for allegedly robbing and assaulting a pizza deliveryman who came to school. Daramy was supposedly present during the robbery but is not facing charges in the case. However, he has had a number of other behavioral issues at school.
It’s clear to me these kids are troubled, get in trouble and need help. But holding them without bail and giving them no chance to at least spend some time at home with their parents before they face what could be a long haul in the criminal justice system (assuming their parents and home life didn’t directly or indirectly lead to them exactly where they are today) seems unnecessarily harsh to me.
I’m not a psychologist, lawyer or a judge, but I wonder if added exposure to other delinquent kids in a juvenile detention center while they await prosecution will only add to the problems of these kids.
Do you think these kids should have been let out on bail?
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Libby commented on Apr 06 11 at 10:31 am12 and 13 is old enough to understand right from wrong. Consequences are a funny thing–every action has them. What these kids did is despicable–clearly they aren’t innocent babies. More like hateful brats. Maybe the idea is to scare them into a capacity for intelligence, tolerance, and forethought. I hope they get counseling too–racial hate does not occur in a vacuum–I’d bet their parents aren’t exactly open minded.
Meredith Carroll commented on Apr 06 11 at 10:32 am@Libby – Don’t get me wrong —– I really believe they should be punished. But for some reason, holding them without bail seems a little too harsh to me.
Kelly commented on Apr 06 11 at 10:50 amCases like this are so gray, it is hard to tell what punishment would be fitting unless you are close to the situation. Without knowing all of the facts, I would say the judges decision to hold without bail is fitting. I believe if they were let out on bail they wouldn’t understand the severity of the situation. Again, without knowing the persons involved any speculation is just that…speculation.
CG commented on Apr 06 11 at 11:04 amAs the parent of a child who was the victim of a violent crime by another child (who had a history of assaults in his past) I do not think that holding the children without bail is unreasonable. Had the boy who hurt my daughter been held in a detention center, my daughter would never have been hurt, would not be suffering from PTSD, nightmares, insomnia, uncontrollable crying, etc.
While they are still children, they are not young kids; they are 12 and 13 and have a history of problems and are old enough to understand right from wrong and that actions have direct consequences. Obviously they need very serious intervention and help to prevent them from going down a more dangerous path than they are already on.
Meredith Carroll commented on Apr 06 11 at 11:08 am@CG — Thanks for sharing that.
Meagan commented on Apr 06 11 at 11:24 amWhat happens if they get off on a technicality, or get some bs community service sentence? I think holdinthem without bail is a good idea especially because of their young age… they are hopefully young enough to have some sense scared into them. Let them stay in juvie rather than go home to parents who will at best tell them that they made a bad choice but they’re sure everything will turn out ok. I think it’s good for them to have to stew for a bit without comfort.
goddess commented on Apr 06 11 at 12:05 pmIs this the same sentence as for any other juvenile assault charge? I don’t hold with one crime being worse and called a “hate”crime, most crimes ARE hateful. And it hurts the victim whether it was the color of their skin, their religion or just because they were unliked/smaller/weaker/looked funny/have red hair/wear glasses/etc.. It’s all the same bowl of noodles to me.
So my answer is: if this is how they treat all kids who beat up kids, then no. No bail. But if this is a harsher penalty- I cry foul!
Meredith Carroll commented on Apr 06 11 at 12:31 pm@Goddess + @ Meagan — Good points.
John commented on Jun 30 11 at 11:59 pmBail? When did juvenile court systems start releasing kids on bail? I was a “troubled” teen during the 1970′s and had extensive contact with multiple jurisdictions spanning three states not once ever was getting bailed out even a remote possibility. You were either released to your parent/guardian or not. The issue of money only came up once when my father was threatened by a juvenile jail to charge him if he did not come get me.
On a secondary note instead of focusing on these two young ladies and the consequences of their obviously extreme behavior, maybe its time to take a look at the adults who ignored the blatant warning signs that these girls were a danger to other students.
Or maybe take a look at the mixed signals we send to our children.
If your thinking of flaming me then I suggest you may be part of the problem rather than the solution. Simply put I’m not the problem,and all I am doing is hoping I can get a few minds to think so that maybe one day all children can go to school and not have to fear going to the bathroom because that’s where the bullies are.
catie commented on May 14 12 at 10:00 pmIf parents cant teach there children right from wrong then it makes sence that the law has too.
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