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Genetic Sexual Attraction Victims Are Big Trouble for Gay Marriage Advocates

Penny Lawrence and her Daddy Baby Daddy.
Julie Ryan Evans of The Stir sent me a previously uncited link last night to a blog post on The Guardian‘s website featuring a photo (left) of the print-only Irish version of The Sun confirming the veracity of 28-year-old Penny Lawrence’s romantic relationship with her biological father, Garry Ryan. (Thank you, Julie.) The couple suffer from Genetic Sexual Attraction, a psychological condition that causes adults who are genetically related but who were not exposed to each other during childhood to feel romantic love for one another. Theirs is not the first instance of GSA nor will it likely be that last; GSA seems to be a fairly common side-effect felt by individuals who meet their blood relatives for the first time as adults.
Many people, including Evans, have no sympathy for the couple, despite their claim of GSA. In her blog post on the topic, Evans writes, “it’s illegal … and disgusting,” adding, “I’m sure it’s tough to grow up without a father, but it still doesn’t excuse or explain such a relationship.” I agree that GSA might not excuse such a relationship, but I do think it explains it, and the presence of so many biologically related couples suffering from GSA should encourage society at large to treat it as a real psychological issue, not a sexual taboo. The Guardian‘s 2003 expose on the subject says, “The emergence of GSA both in the US and the UK coincided with the relaxation of adoption laws in the mid-1970s, which gave adopted children easier access to their records and led to an increase in the number of reunions between adoptees and their blood relatives.” Experts believe “the frequency of these cases is almost impossible to quantify, although some agencies estimate that elements of GSA occur in 50% of reunions.”
The Guardian notes that instances of GSA are only going to increase as a generation of babies conceived using IVF and sperm donation seeks out their biological parents. They quote Sue Cowling, deputy director of the Post-Adoption Centre, as saying, “Genetic sexual attraction associated with IVF births is a time bomb waiting to go off.” Cowling “suspects that the subject has remained a no-go area, even for psychologists, because even in a society wide awake to the spectre of paedophilia and sexual abuse in families, GSA – which falls into neither category – threatens to explode too many cosy assumptions about “normal” and aberrant sexual instincts.”
Exactly. It’s the old, “If we allow gays to marry, what’s next? Who’s to stop someone from wanting to marry a sheep – or their mother?” argument. (In that example, marrying your mother is way worse than marrying a sheep, by the way.) I don’t disagree that victims of GSA should be encouraged NOT to act on their feelings for one another, but I think it will be much harder for those experiencing sexual attraction to birth relatives to deal with their feelings if this condition isn’t openly acknowledged and talked about. These people need help, not scorn.
Furthermore, stigmatizing GSA is only going to cause incest advocates to adopt it as a pet cause, like the individual behind the website Full Marriage Equality, which both supports gay marriage AND incest – a conflation any gay marriage advocate would be smacking themselves in the head over. A blog post on the Full Marriage Equality site goes so far as to congratulate Lawrence and her father on their happy relationship, saying, “They are consenting adults who should be allowed to marry…. We wish them the best as a consanguinarmorous couple and family.”
In 2008, when California first sanctioned gay marriage, many people argued that “the California Supreme Courts legal reasoning could be applied to polygamous and incestuous marriages.” Glen Lavy of the right-wing Alliance Defense Fund wrote in the LA Times, “Although some proponents of same-sex “marriage” have been trying to distance themselves from polygamy, it is, and long has been, defended by powerful voices like the American Civil Liberties Union.” (Thanks to shows like Big Love and Sister Wives, polygamy hardly seems taboo anymore.) Jon W. Davidson of Lambda Legal countered, “Polygamy and incest have not become legal in Massachusetts, Canada or any of the other countries where same-sex couples can marry, and they’re quite unlikely to be recognized in California.”
That’s the thing: victims of GSA do understand that they’re breaking the law when they indulge in their physical desire for one another, but they can’t seem to help themselves. The few experts in GSA insist that it really is not an incestuous urge, so it’s sad to see Lawrence’s story co-opted by a site like Full Marriage Equality which stands for nothing by standing for everything. No one wants to see incest supported by society, but victims of GSA need some level of sympathy. After all, if your child was conceived using a donor embryo and he or she wishes to meet her biological parents someday, there’s a 50% chance they’ll experience some level of obsession or Genetic Sexual Attraction, too.
Source: The Guardian
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JMW commented on Mar 30 11 at 2:04 pmThat 50% statistic sounds mightily inflated. I’d need to see other studies before I’m willing to believe that.
As for GSA, I say so what? If they’re consenting adults, where’s the harm? Just as long as they run tests on any pregnancies and make double sure the baby is not genetically defected (often the biggest risk of incest pregnancies), and abort those that are. And if it’s a gay GSA couple, then it’s doubly fine because then there’s no risk of pregnancy.
I must stress, though, that the relationship MUST be consensual and between adults. That 28-year-old Penny Lawrence in the article–that sounds okay. 28 is an age where she’s old enough to know what she’s doing. I’d be a bit more leery of an 18-year-old falling in love with her father. And with the power dynamics in play, I’d be LESS leery of a son falling in love with his mother, and pretty much fine with siblings falling in love.
However, if they knew each other from birth, I’m not sure I’d trust that. There’s such a world of potential for abuse in that situation. I’d take it on a case-by-case basis.
Should they be allowed to marry? Um, okay, sure. But the need isn’t as great as it is with same-sex couples because, being family, it is far, far easier for GSA couples to obtain inheritance rights, adoption rights, etc., etc. for each other because they are already recognized as family. So their right to marriage isn’t as urgent.
Keith for Full Marriage Equality commented on Mar 30 11 at 3:02 pmThanks for considering my blog’s comments on this. Point by point…
I wouldn’t say the couple is suffering. They seem to be enjoying themselves.
They ARE likely to suffer persecution and perhaps prosecution.
“It’s illegal” and “it’s disguting” were also failed arguments used against interracial couples and same-sex couples.
No excuse is needed for relationships between consenting adults.
What I support is the right of of consenting adults to love, sex, and marriage. I condemn rape, child abuse, etc., which should remain illegal, of course. And I’m against cheating. None of that is involved in this case.
There ARE people who DO want to see consanguinarmorous relationships supported the same as any other relationship. And yes, this includes some nonconsanguinarmorous LGBT people, who, thankfully, show solidarity.
Stan commented on Mar 30 11 at 3:37 pmOne question: how does this effect the child medically? I mean isn’t that one of the MAIN reasons why incest is such a no no because it could, ultimately, produce a retarded child? Someone fill me in here.
Ralph commented on Mar 30 11 at 3:54 pmHere we go again. How is it OK that every single non normal (normal being a male and a female) is looked at with a open mind to at least to get to the bottom of why they feel that way while child abusers are called sick minded and everyone feels they should be killed or locked up and the key thrown away. Before everyone is in a uproar I do not agree with the sexual abuse of children. I will say though that Ive seen programs where many sex offenders tearfully say they don’t know why they feel attracted to children and wish they didn’t. (Just like many gays) yet no one gives them a chance to help them with their problem causing many of they to go out and eventually act upon their desire. The bottom line is America needs to grow up and face these sexual issues head on instead of destroying peoples lives in the process.
Linda, the original one commented on Mar 30 11 at 6:13 pm50%? That can’t be correct.
carolyncastiglia commented on Mar 30 11 at 7:00 pmThat’s from The Guardian. And that refers to some level of attraction. It doesn’t mean 50% will sleep with each other.
Mantronikk commented on Mar 30 11 at 10:47 pmhttp://heteroseparatist.blogspot.com/2011/03/msm-and-ssm-bring-gsa-omg-wt.html
Thomas Alex commented on Mar 31 11 at 12:06 amIncest does not produce a “retard” child. This is an old wise tell. There has NEVER been any Scientific evidence proving it did.
elm commented on Mar 31 11 at 11:05 amWith all the IVF and sperm donors in the world it is not so surprising to believe that first degree relatives will be mating. Who’s your daddy is a legitimate question to ask on a first date.
Elexim Peleximor commented on Mar 31 11 at 12:05 pmThomas Alex, you should have written “old wives’ tale”. Do you just hear things and never read them?
And you’re also wrong in your prime assertion. In fact, there’s a strong correlation between consanguinity and genetic problems.
nobody.really commented on Mar 31 11 at 9:44 pmWhat does any of this have to do with state recognition of same-sex marriage?
If the premise of the article is accurate — people are prone to lust for those to whom they have a biological relationship, unless those feelings are extinguished by early contact or something — arguably this poses issues for children who are not raised by their biological parents. But those children are not going to be raised by their biological parents whether or not the state recognizes same-sex marriage.
Here’s where state recognition of same-sex marriage would make a difference to this issue: “Well, I was thinking about finding a sperm doner so that my girlfriend and I could raise a child. But then I realized, ‘Oh no — my state doesn’t recognize same-sex marriage!’ And so I changed my mind.” This strikes me as a pretty far-fetched scenario, but it’s the only one I can think of that would tie the issue of legalizing same-sex marriage to the topic of this article.
Instead, consider this scenario: A child is being raised by a same-sex couple. Is that child better off if the couple has a state-recognized marriage, or if the couple is just two people living together? THAT is the question to ponder when considering the effect of same-sex marriage on a child. I can’t see how state recognition of same-sex marriage would make the Genetic Sexual Attraction problem worse. Conversely, if a stable home environment helps to provide kids with the emotional resources to resist all manner of self-destructive behaviors, and if state recognition of marriage enhances the stability of the home environment, then I’d guess that state recognition of same-sex marriage would tend to ameliorate the problems noted in the article. Just a guess.
carolyncastiglia commented on Apr 01 11 at 12:07 am“I can’t see how state recognition of same-sex marriage would make the Genetic Sexual Attraction problem worse.” I can’t either. I didn’t argue that. I think you misread the post.
Mark commented on Mar 19 12 at 7:32 amThey are two consenting adults. Let them do what they want. Hope they have medical supervision regarding the child. But then again, woman nearing the age of 40 are at high risk of giving birth to a child with Down Syndrome. Not much different I suppose. Then again, I’m no expert.
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