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I Hope Not All L&D Nurses Think Like This
Over at the Stir, Annie Krasnow posts the confessions of a labor and delivery nurse — a proud [my emphasis] L&D nurse — living somewhere along the East Coast. Despite her pride, Krasnow’s friend wants her list of confessions printed under the pseudonym, Laborie Delivia.
After reading the list, I can understand why she doesn’t want her real name attached. And I feel sorry for L&D nurses everywhere. Though some no doubt share Delivia’s childbirth edicts, I hope for the sake of birthing women everywhere, they are few and far between.
Among the things that make her and her fellow nurses roll their eyes at you — you excited, nervous and protective mothers-to-be: your level of cleanliness and the amount of hair you have, yes, down there. So, shower before you come in to have a baby. And also? Get to trimming. Sure, you haven’t seen your feet in months, much less shaved your legs. But, for Delivia’s comfort, somehow make it work.
She also wants you to come in educated, but she doesn’t want you to act on what you know. A birth plan is fine and all, she says, but let it go already.
And be strong. Don’t ask for an epidural during those first contractions. You’ve got miles to go and you need to prove yourself to Delivia first (even though she confesses she asked for an early epidural herself). Since you didn’t shower or shave or submit to the internal fetal monitor, you really, really need to give Delivia a win. After all, she might roll her eyes at you.
You know, I understand that childbirth is so incredibly routine to those whose careers center on seeing it daily. I think real credit goes out to those midwives, doctors, nurses and doulas who understand that the women who make Delivia’s career possible don’t see the birth of their first or second or third child as routine or predictable. Who knew that birth is something women could be so stupid at that a caregiver they’re supposed to trust could actually be rolling her eyes at — or grossed out by — them?
I know it’s not all pixie dust and angels singing. But seriously? A trim? Ugh!
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Social Media Bad for Study Skills | Strollerderby commented on Sep 08 10 at 2:21 pm[...] birth experiences – the kind where laboring women are pushed around by arrogant doctors and high-handed l&d nurses – “birth [...]
Childbirth Can Be Traumatic, But Calling It "Birth Rape" Helps No One | Strollerderby commented on Sep 08 10 at 7:21 pmABB commented on Sep 07 10 at 5:20 pmIt’s great to know that this nurse, and evidently her peers, are focused on the truly important aspects of childbirth, like pubic hair.
Manjari commented on Sep 07 10 at 5:42 pmUgh. She really makes L&D nurses look bad, but I’m sure they are not all as awful as she is. I like the comment that said something like, “…I’m looking for compassionate care, not a date…” in response to the grooming advice.
Gretchen Powers commented on Sep 07 10 at 5:57 pmShe and anyone else with her opinion can kiss my ass. I don’t shave anywhere anytime. I’m a grown woman. Is she?
goddess commented on Sep 07 10 at 6:15 pmSo geez- it’s like junior high all over again? OH-me-GAWD, like WOW!
goddess commented on Sep 07 10 at 6:16 pmYou nailed it regarding the grooming advice @@. And more power to you Gretchen!
Manjari commented on Sep 07 10 at 6:41 pmYou said it, Gretchen.
motope commented on Sep 07 10 at 7:31 pmI’m sorry, I could barely see my belly button by the time I gave birth to my daughter. It sounds downright dangerous and ridiculous to take a pair of shears to that region when you are basically cutting blind. One of my best friends is an OBGYN, and she seemed more shocked at the women who were super trimmed/shaved down there. I had a hairy, natural child-birth, and my nurse was a dream — so helpful and kind, yet firm when I started to meltdown at the pushing stage. I want to believe the woman from this article is an anomaly.
MamaK commented on Sep 07 10 at 8:28 pmYou know, I went back and read the original article, which I am guessing most people won’t bother to do, and I didn’t find her comments very offensive at all. Actually, I am kind of disappointed in how skewed this article is in its commentary. I didn’t shave before I gave birth, and I still didn’t find her comments offensive. They weren’t said in a nasty tone, they were honest and to my surprise, they weren’t really as bad as I might expect. Pregnant or not, good hygiene is always a good idea, and if you are begging for an epidural at 1cm, the nurses aren’t the only on rolling their eyes, a lot of other “all natural” mothers everywhere are joining them too, but who cares. And as for being prepared and having a birth plan, the article doesn’t say that you shouldn’t act on what you know, it says you should be realistic. I imagine there are a lot of women that go in with lofty ideas of what L&D will be like and are rather difficult to deal with when things don’t go their way. All in all, her advice was sound and a good insiders perspective.
JBoogie commented on Sep 07 10 at 9:17 pmI got a Brazilian wax at 8 months. I was going on a “babymoon” and a few days before we spent the night at my in-laws’ who have a full-length mirror outside their shower. I noticed that I was a little primate-ish, and asked my husband what he thought. Without saying a word, he went into his dad’s closet and pulled out a Playboy from 1973. After I peed myself from laughing, I decided to tame the beast, at least for the sake of the people who would have to see me in a bathing suit. But never in a million years would I have considered even shaving my legs for my L&D nurse, much less my ‘bottom’, as she kept calling it. (Really? You can’t even say the word ‘vagina’ and you want me to trim it for you? Ugh.)
bob commented on Sep 08 10 at 9:01 amSo, what’s the deal about waiting for the epidural? If your planning on having one at the outset, why does anyone recommend you wait until you’re having heavy contractions before bringing someone in to perform a delicate procedure on your spinal nerve?
Rosana commented on Sep 08 10 at 10:11 amI agree with Delivia on the bathing part. Come on, even when you do not have a schedule C-section or induced labor, there is plenty of time between the first and second stages of labor to take a shower.
Now on the grooming, I did shave completely down there, as a favor to myself. Vaginal births are very messy during and after so I knew I was not going to stand the mess after, let alone with an untammed beast (like JBoogie calls it) down there.
Now, unless you educate yourself, you cannot have a birth plan, since research will show you that births are not predictable in any way, not even for the 30 years experienced OB-GYN. Educating yourself will make let streesful for the already nervous mother-to-be to make decisions when a situation arrives.
Now, about the epidural, I always wait until the pain is really bad (which does not make any sense because that means I am almost to the end of the second stage) but I think that it should be up to the woman to decide when she wants the epidural (unless it is too late to have one).
Huh? commented on Sep 08 10 at 1:33 pm@Rosana- I have to ask- what about the stubble?!?! Stretched and burning, heavily bleeding vag PLUS itch and discomfort from stubble? That sounds like cutting off your pubes to spite you vag to me. Yowza.
Manjari commented on Sep 08 10 at 2:16 pm“That sounds like cutting off your pubes to spite you vag to me.”
Haaaaaaaaaaaa!!! I love that.
TC commented on Sep 08 10 at 2:22 pmI agree w/ MamaK. The original article isn’t malicious. It’s just one person’s preference.
Gretchen Powers commented on Sep 08 10 at 2:45 pmShe just strikes me as very immature, and with young (and some older) women all worried about if they’re gonna poop during labor (yes you will) and other stuff, they really don’t need to be worried how some beyotch is going to be judging their privates. Seriously. Thank goodness for crunchy midwives and doulas who are in touch with the feminine POWER of natural women. My attitude when I was giving birth anyway was that these people were hired by me, I was paying them, to care for me. I honored their expertise and was respectful and all that, but they were, after all, there to serve me.
Amy commented on Sep 08 10 at 3:32 pmNicely put, GP! Thanks for saying it!
Elendy commented on Sep 08 10 at 9:56 pmOK, so coming late into the fray here, but you know I have to say something.
I’m an L&D nurse (and yes, damn proud of it! although I am also a mother and a midwifery student) and the fact of the matter is, we are human – just like everyone else here. And just like in any other job, there are always going to be some good eggs and some bad ones. If you don’t want to risk dealing with the cranky nurse on the floor, have a homebirth! It’s a great option, really.
Now, I have to say, like MamaK, I went back and read the original article and it certainly wasn’t as offensive as it was made out to be. The shaving bit? Meh. I have never met anyone who cares. The B.O. thing – um yeah, nobody likes that! But of course, birth is messy messy business and we deal with a lot more than sweat (oh yes, and everybody poops – nobody cares ladies!)The fact of the matter is we nurses are actually there to help. We (most of us at least) love our jobs and want to do right by women as best as possible in a hostile environment. We don’t set the hospital policies, but we are the ones that have to enforce them. The venom being spewed at nurses here is really hurtful and depressing. We are highly trained clinical professionals with years of schooling and hundreds of births under our belts. We have a great deal to offer to those open to listening. Many women come into the hospital though on the offensive and it makes no ones experience (nurse or mother) any better.
ALaborNurse commented on Sep 08 10 at 9:57 pmHa! what you should be worrying about is us talking crap about your husband at the nurses station :)
Mistress_Scorpio commented on Sep 08 10 at 9:58 pmLOL’d at Huh’s “spite your vag” comment. The respectful “you’re there to serve me” comment also made me laugh. But for other reasons.
Elendy commented on Sep 08 10 at 10:11 pmOh, and a few more things (sorry, can you tell this has struck a nerve?):
To the poster who is so offended that her L&D nurse used the word ‘bottom’. Really?! Bitchy much? You think we can’t say the word vagina? I have seen more vaginas than you can imagine. I say, see, and do things every night that would make most people pretty darn squeamish. I am NOT afraid of the word VAGINA lady!
The fact is, we all fall into our little shorthands and standard spiels. “Mama” “Honey” “What a lovely name” ;) Sometimes these things are just easier. I often use ‘bottom’ to actually refer to your perineum, anus, and labia – you know, your bottom (which, btw, is not the same as your vagina!). And quite frankly, I’m damn busy and don’t have time to say ‘perineum, anus, and labia’ when bottom just does as well!
Rosana commented on Sep 09 10 at 9:41 amHuh? how do you get stubble in your vagina? That is impossible. Second, no itch and discomfort from stubble if you give yourself proper maintenance but if you ever hate your hairy “vagina” :), you can always cut off your pubes to spite it I guess you can ask Manjari, how to do it, since she loves it :)
Gretchen Powers commented on Sep 09 10 at 9:39 pmYeah, the “bottom” thing was fine…my doula used that term for the general area. As long as they don’t say hooha or vajayjay or stuff like that…and yeah, the doula especially is there to serve the laboring woman. It’s part of what “doula” means. Laugh all you want.
Jim commented on Jan 22 11 at 5:13 amSo she had the courage to say it. It’s one of the many comments that go around and just because you don’t hear them doesn’t mean they aren’t being said. Its a good thing someone is being honest about it and letting the public know. Go ahead and show up ungroomed head to toe and be the joke of the day. It’s sad, but it happens I see it every day.
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