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Is it Smug and Pretentious to Shun TV?

Posted by madeline holler on August 30th, 2010 at 3:10 pm

children pop culture televions 300x134 Is it Smug and Pretentious to Shun TV?When it comes to media and kids, it doesn’t matter: whatever we parents are doing, it’s wrong.

If you opt in to letting your little ones watch TV — thinking they might learn something — you’re a total boob. Recall the Baby Einstein/Baby Mozart DVDs and what people said about parents who bought those.

If you decide to give pediatric recommendations of no TV before age 2 a whirl, you’re being a snob, not living in reality, clearly a martyr who doesn’t value showers, quiet phone calls or even 20 minutes of “me time.” Whatever your house rules are, they’re an implicit criticism of how some other family is doing it.

Just look at the comments on film critic Andrew O’Hehir‘s piece over at Salon. He and his wife have kept their homeschooled kids away from Dora the Explorer and Barney and all other TV. The world at-large thinks he’s just being pretentious.

O’Hehir and his wife have their reasons. They avoided any kind of media until their 6-year-old twins were 2. And after that, they wanted to introduce media slowly, preserve childhood as long as possible. What ever “slowly” and “preserve childhood” mean, of course. As parents, though, they get to define all that for themselves.

O’Hehir’s piece is interesting and his family’s media-viewing habits probably aren’t all that unusual in this day of Netflix and Hulu, etc. etc. Because while his kids aren’t parked in front of Sprouts network, they have experienced repeated viewings of movies like “Cars,” Disney’s “Winne the Pooh” and “How the Grinch Stole Christmas.” They play games on the computer. If staring at the screen for more than 20 minutes a day messes with a child’s executive function, his Dora-less babes have been messed with. If watching the same movie over and over chips away at creative abilities, consider his kids chipped!

Which is really all the critics want to know, right? The reason some people go after parents on the no-TV end of the kids-and-media spectrum is because, deep down, they’re worried about their own choices and how they’re letting Dora and “iCarly” and “American Idol” screw up their children’s brains.

I’m guilty of it too! I know when I started reading O’Hehir’s piece, I felt irritated. “Oh, good for you,” I thought insincerely. When I got to the part about all the movies the kids have watched and the computer time they have, I thought, “Ah-ha! Cheater.” Because I’ve been all over the map with TV and pop-culture exposure and media for my kids. I can remember times when my oldest watched hours and hours of TV at a very, very young age. Before we lived in Southern California, some winters just stared down at us like prison wardens rattling a billy club against the bars of our apartment-jails. Sometimes TV makes the day go by, period.

But I’m also vigilant about merchandising and commercials and I’m unwilling to let corporate advertisers have my kids’ brains and opinions and self-esteem. So I’ve kept and open mind and read what I can about TV and childhood and that sort of thing. A few years ago, we cut back a lot. And now, thanks to the fact that we get neither cable (I’m too cheap) nor good reception (we live close to an airport), TV isn’t much of an option. And DVDs are just a pain enough to set up (I’m lazy as well) that there’s actually more incentive to tell the kids to go outside (again, the Southern California option).

What I like, though, is the discussion about families’ viewing habits and I wonder what yours are. I know folks who love the family time of watching “American Idol” or “Glee” together, others who let their kids sit in on episodes of CSI and still others who would shun all of that and the DVDs and … and … and …

How much screen time do your little ones get? Do you think it’s too much but allow it anyway?

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I don’t think it is smug to avoid TV. The problem is I have met people who go on and on about avoiding TV, and then their kids start singing songs from TV shows. I’m not kidding, this almost always happens. Then they tell me they let their kids watch shows on the computer. I really do not see how that is different from watching TV.

Laure68 commented on Aug 30 10 at 3:39 pm

Absolutely, Laure68! I think some people take “no TV” to literally mean no television, not no viewing of media, shows, or movies, which is what I believe the pediatricians are saying. I seriously doubt that watching a little television, even as a baby, does any lasting harm. I could imagine that being plunked in front of a tv for hours upon hours upon hours a day, every day, would probably not be a very good thing to do. But there is obviously a happy medium in there!

Kikiriki commented on Aug 30 10 at 3:51 pm

Watching on a computer tends to be a little different, but it isn’t necessarily. There may be fewer/shorted ads. There may be more active program selection. When one show ends, another doesn’t immediately suck you in. As with Tivo, you’re not locked into a programming schedule. Technically-savvy parents can exercise more control over what and when different sites can be accessed with a computer. If the computer is sitting at a desk, it can discourage loafing out. Also, because computers always have a headphone jack, viewing does not need to fill the house with noise, preventing others from being distracted by it (also you get used to a quiet house and become less compelled to break the silence with the TV or leave it on ‘in the background’), and it’s portable with a wireless laptop. The biggest advantage, though, is saving on the cost of cable. Here’s a good breakdown of potential savings: http://www.wired.com/magazine/2010/08/ff_howto_watchtv/3/

We moved to computer-only viewing mostly for budgetary reasons. But, It’s made TV less central to life and, when we do watch, we tend to watch less drivel — and absolutely no infomercials.

bob commented on Aug 30 10 at 4:16 pm

We generally don’t have our kid watch broadcast TV unless its PBS…we just don’t have cable. We do, however, let her watch Dora and Curious George DVDs and on the DVR, which are both educational, IMO. She does not watch all day long. 1-2 hours per day. She has learned alot from these shows.

Gretchen Powers commented on Aug 30 10 at 4:42 pm

@bob – I see what you are saying, but wouldn’t the same be said for DVD’s? We never had cable. (Too cheap!) With DVD’s, you can choose to watch one show and it will end when it ends. No commercials, no never-ending TV, etc.

Laure68 commented on Aug 30 10 at 5:03 pm

I read O’Hehir’s piece over the weekend and while I don’t give a rat’s ass what he chooses to show his kids (why, oh why do I read this stuff??), his tone is so smug, so self-satisfied, so dripping in condescension I’m not at all surprised he brought out a lot of commenters. I actually gave up reading before I got to the end and thought he should have just titled the damn piece “Why I’m Better Than You”

bettywu commented on Aug 30 10 at 6:04 pm

Two thumbs up @bettywu!!

K. commented on Aug 30 10 at 7:18 pm

OK…just read his piece. Didn’t strike me as snobby. The fact that some think it is explains ALOT about why many opinions expressed on MANY things are always taken as some kind of affront. His line about “Why say yes to the Pixar films and the Disney classics, but no to ‘The Little Mermaid’ and ‘Shrek’ and ‘Kung Fu Panda’? Because we think those movies suck, and because one of the short-lived privileges of parenting young children is arbitrary aesthetic totalitarianism” is true for me, too, I guess. I just don’t happen to think Dora and Curious George or Martha Speaks suck. I think they are nice, relatively quiet, interesting shows. I like the idea of young children watching short programs way more than a 3 year old watching a 2 hour movie. Other than that, it’s all a matter of taste. I think alot of those Pixar movies are dumb.

Gretchen Powers commented on Aug 30 10 at 7:32 pm

besides…the thing is…his kids DO watch plenty of stuff…he doesn’t seem snobby to me, just kind of mixed up…they don’t watch this, they watch that, blah blah blah

Gretchen Powers commented on Aug 30 10 at 7:41 pm

You know what? My kid watches TV and at 2 years old he speaks more fluently than some 3 year-olds. He’s got a great imagination, he loves to play dress-up and run around outside. I think he’s a well rounded kid who deserves to watch a TV show now and then if he wants to.

Amber commented on Aug 31 10 at 6:15 am

Laura68: Yeah, I’d say DVDs have the same potential advantages over broadcast/cable. Even a DVR can give you greater control, I imagine.
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Regarding smugness, I pretty much avoid telling people that we don’t “have TV” because it immediately puts many on the defensive, like choosing to live without electricity might. You lose them before you can even qualify yourself.
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Regarding “asthetic totalitarianism,” I would argue that taste can be an important thing to teach. People judge you by your tastes, so taste can influence who you befriend, which can influence greatly who you become. See, for example: http://scienceblogs.com/mixingmemory/2007/03/what_does_your_music_say_about_1.php
See also http://beatcrave.com/2009-03-03/music-that-makes-you-dumb/
and http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article788601.ece
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On one hand, it feels weird to try to influence taste, but we do it all the time with clothing fashion.

bob commented on Aug 31 10 at 9:08 am

I think it’s the act of talking about it that makes it seem snobby. We don’t have TV at our house, for grownups or children, but I only mention it when somebody asks me if I watch a certain show or whatever. Once or twice, people have told me that I NEEED TV if I want to take a shower or wash the dishes in peace, and I respond with a dull smile because that’s not true at all. I shower at night, when the solar panels have.. um… been working hard all day.
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Okay, okay, we have solar panels but no TV. I’m digging myself into a hole here, aren’t I? We eat processed food, though. Is that bad enough to redeem me?
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Anyway, my point is that I think differing lifestyles are okay if you don’t make a big deal out of it. Very few people get on my case about things I do ‘better’ than them if they were the ones who asked me about it in the first place. But internet bloggers and journalists need something to write about, so unless they’re being self-deprecatingly humble (which can be annoying as well), they may seem to be boasting – and by extension, judging. At least, that’s how the readers tend to perceive things. We could stop doing that if we become aware of the phenomenon.

AwesomeCloud's mom commented on Aug 31 10 at 1:18 pm

My kid hasn’t watched any TV, but he probably gets exposed to about and hour of Katamari Damacy every day — I still haven’t unlocked that eighth comet.

JesBelle commented on Aug 31 10 at 1:23 pm

My son has watched TV ever since I can remember. I just make sure it is NickJr (former know as Noggin) because they have no commercials and they teach kids different things. Besides, I make sure is that while he is watching I am with there interacting with him and the show. If they ask colors, I make sure he answers and sometimes I answer. I think is a great way to spend time with him without the pressure of creating a whole game.
On the other hand, I do not think the author was trying to belittle anybody, he was just explaining his choices for his twin girls. I agree with the comment that when parents critize other parents’ choices is because the do not feel so sure about their own choices. Well, I think in parenting you are never sure of what is going to work for our kids. We just make the best decision we possibly can make with the best of our knowledge and hope it works, but guess what, our choices do not always work for others so it is their own business what they decide for their kids.

Rosana commented on Aug 31 10 at 1:39 pm

When I talked with my pediatrician about how much tv my twin 2 year olds watch (about 2 hours a day) she made a great point. One way to think about how much tv you’re comfortable with is to think about what tv time replacing. Are there parts of the day when my kids play outside, build with blocks, play with cars and dolls and kitchen toys, color and paint and read books? Absolutely. They’re developing their imaginations and building social skills during the parts of the day when they’re cheerful and alert, in the morning and after their nap. Would they be doing those things during our “cranky times” before lunch and before dinner? No, they would be whining and fighting and throwing things. I’m happy to replace that with Sesame Street and Micky Mouse Clubhouse.

And thankfully On Demand TV and DVR mean my kids, despite watching 2 hours of TV per day, have pretty much never seen a commercial.

Diane commented on Aug 31 10 at 1:46 pm

I really liked his piece and didn’t think it was snobby. People who got offended need to get a grip — these are insecure people who think any parent who dares to share their own experience is by definition automatically looking down on other parents. Anyway, I thought the article was really more about the inconsistencies we all are guilty of as parents, and the clash between our parenting ideals and the messy reality. Yes, as parents we monitor the quality and quantity of TV viewing, but I also think the kind of parent you are in general has a bigger impact on kids than how many hours a week you let them watch TV.

michelle commented on Aug 31 10 at 5:05 pm

I heart Elmo, and DVR.

JBoogie commented on Aug 31 10 at 7:34 pm

I didn’t read the article. However, I do have friends who don’t want their kids to watch any TV. Including one family who got rid of their TV who watch movies and shows online (incidentally they are the most smug over my TV-phobic friends with kids). I don’t let it bother me what other parents decide. I couldn’t have made it without Yo Gabba Gabba and I do not believe that TV is evil or destructive. I think it’s like science…it can be used for good or evil, but the thing itself is not evil. My brothers and I watched a lot of TV as kids, and read a lot and played family games..and well, we’re grown-ups now, and we still read a lot, watch TV and play family games. I don’t think TV stole my childhood, and I don’t think it will harm my boys.

Marj commented on Aug 31 10 at 9:47 pm

I wish we could say no TV, but I don’t know how I would cook dinner without Elmo in Grouchland…
http://where-is-my.blogspot.com

jessica commented on Aug 31 10 at 9:56 pm

I grew up with no TV in the house and would constantly try to get permission to play at my best friend’s home across the street where she had cable TV waiting. At around age 6 we finally got a TV and probably until college so much of my time was spent in front of that screen, I couldn’t get enough even if I didn’t really enjoy the show I was watching. I think it’s like parents who deny kids all sweets – once they’re finally allowed to have them, there’s a big chance they’ll over-indulge. I let my 2 year-old watch Dora and then when the show is over it’s over, sometimes she throws a small fit, sometimes she just accepts it, but she moves on and plays with her toys. I don’t ever want her to think she’s missing out on something but I think it involves balance and knowing it’s a treat she can have sometimes.

Ariel commented on Sep 01 10 at 7:46 am

I do let my kids watch tv, but I don’t feel defensive if another parent doesn’t. I actually think no tv for really little kids is probably ideal, so good for those parents if they can avoid it. I don’t think it’s fair that parents who make a choice that isn’t so mainstream have to watch their tongues or be super humble for fear of offending others. Other people need to stop being insecure and get a grip. Why should not having a tv need to be like some little secret just to protect others from defensively judging?

Manjari commented on Sep 01 10 at 8:31 pm

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