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Is Crying It Out The New Spanking?

Posted by sierra on August 18th, 2010 at 8:38 pm

2849986789 0600d4b338 300x209 Is Crying It Out The New Spanking? Bedtime isn’t just about sleep anymore. Increasingly, how you handle your child’s sleep needs is being seen by researchers (and other parents) as a referendum on your overall parenting skills.

Those of you letting your little ones cry it out won’t be earning any extra credit.  The debate about the best way to put a baby to bed still rages, ranging from fierce advocates of cosleeping to devotees of Ferber. But more and more, scientific research sides with the snugglers.

The Globe and Mail sums up several recent research studies about infant sleep and finds the consensus leaning  towards a no-cry approach to baby’s bedtime.

In a study that found emotional availability mattered more than routine at bedtime, parents got demerits for failing to respond to their child’s cries. The more emotionally available a parent was – ie: the faster he or she responded to the baby’s cry with affection – the better the babies slept.

Douglas Teti, the Penn State scientist who headed the study, said he see bedtime as a good indicator of parenting skill.

Bedtime heralds the longest separation of the day between parents and their children. I’ve always been curious about how well or poorly parents prepare their children for that separation, because I think that could be a pretty important index of parenting competence.

The news that babies sleep better when they’re not crying it out is good for British parenting expert Penelope Leach, whose new book claims that cry-it-out sleep training can cause lasting damage to infant’s brains and harm the relationship between mother and child.

It’s bad news for the Ferber camp and it’s supporters, though. Many families still embrace some form of cry-it-out sleep training. For some parents, it can be a bit like ripping a band-aid off fast instead of peeling it back gently. You need sleep. Your kid needs sleep. If the fastest way from frequent night waking to a good night’s sleep goes through some rocky emotional territory, at least you’ll all be able to sleep off the stress in a week or two when it’s over.

So while the approach has it’s fans, they’re in many cases becoming quieter. Like those who still support spanking, they realize that their tactic opens them up for public criticism, even if it works for their family. Will cry-it-out sleep training become a dirty secret as more scientists speak out against it?

Did this method work for your family? How do you get your kids to sleep?

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We developed a cry-it-out method for our son when he was about eight months old after consulting with a sleep consultant (a sleep consultant for goodness sake! we were desperate!). He cried, and I sat in his room and shushed him, patted him, reassured him without picking him up. It took a few nights of crying before he started sleeping better. It was hard. I mean, REALLY hard. And it felt unnatural. And for those several days I dreaded the night. But I’m not sure my marriage would have made it had we not done it. No one was sleeping, we disagreed about how to deal with it, we argued all the time, and as the stay at home parent I was totally depressed. For about two months before we did the sleep training he would only sleep if I were holding him. Which meant I could never leave his side. Not for a second. I would rock him to sleep at night and then just sit in a dark room holding him, watching TV on closed caption. And he was miserable. He was grumpy all day. And I wasn’t being a very good mom. I started to feel resentful and depressed. It was a really dark time for my family.
Do I think crying it out is a good thing? Not really. Do I regret it? No. When I was pregnant I would NEVER have believed I would have done this, but I’m telling you, I’ve never felt more desperate in my life.

For what it’s worth, I don’t think it’s damaged my relationship with my child. He is loving and cheerful and a champion sleeper…

anonymom commented on Aug 18 10 at 9:41 pm

I am not quiet! We did CIO with my two daughters and they sleep much better than they did before we did it. I would do it again!

Marisela commented on Aug 19 10 at 12:54 am

Boy, am I glad that my son was an easy sleeper!

I didn’t see in the original article that the consensus was the CIO was bad. They say there is a growing concerning with CIO, which is not the same thing.

So far, I have not seen any data that show that kids who are subject to sleep training have any lasting problems. Penelope Leach (who is mentioned in this article) bases her conclusion on the fact that kids who are extremely neglected have lasting problems, so this must be the case with sleep training. The professor from Penn State said that his research showed that kids who were left alone actually slept worse than those whose parents came in immediately, but he also says this is preliminary data. (I would be interested to see how more research on this turns out.)

Laure68 commented on Aug 19 10 at 1:43 am

I don’t believe in CIO. My first two were easy sleepers so it was never an issue. The youngest was a very tactile baby and he could only sleep nestled up against his dad or me. So we let him. We started out being reluctant co-sleepers, but it grew on us. he moved in to his own bed when he was 3ish and he’s become great sleeper. I don’t have it in me to listen to my baby cry for me and not respond. It feels wrong and I go with my gut. the alternative seems, to be quite blunt, really mean.

Linda commented on Aug 19 10 at 2:03 am

It sounds like the study was biased against CIO from it’s construction. Infared cameras were placed in nurseries and parents lost points off their “emotional availability” scores whenever the baby cried for longer than a minute? Um, how is this anything more than a game of semantics? The whole notion of letting a baby cry it out is to leave them to cry for a stretch of time. Therefore, parents who don’t leave their children to cry automatically win the “caring” game.
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I don’t care what side of the aisle you fall on. This study as reported doesn’t say anything meaningful about infant sleep or parent-child relationships. It doesn’t demonstrate any rational basis for a “growing concern,” it reflects the researcher’s own foregone conclusions. It seems DISHONEST to report on it as though it offered solid evidence.
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Furthermore, babies from one month to 24 months were included in the study. First off, there is widespread agreement that you don’t leave infants younger than four months to cry indefinitely. Secondly, that wild range of babies comprise a huge variety of developmental stages, and sleep is a component that will vary in accordance with that range (not to mention between individual babies). Seems like somebody is gearing up to sell a book to frazzled first-time parents who haven’t figured out there are SOME things you don’t have to be a martyr about when parenting.
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It’s just dishonest to suggest that this study says anything useful about infant sleep.

Tanya commented on Aug 19 10 at 3:01 am

You know what? I don’t need any study to tell me that letting a baby cry is wrong. If someone wants to treat their baby that way, fine. It’s not how I treat mine. You reap what you sow.

Gretchen Powers commented on Aug 19 10 at 6:35 am

Tanya, you hit the nail on the head.

jensunnyside commented on Aug 19 10 at 7:20 am

The Sleepeasy Solution, a CIO method, changed our lives. Between bedtime and naps, our baby cried for less than 2 hours total over the course of a week. I find it hard to believe that this negatively effected her in any way. She’s a happy, vibrant, loving toddler who is well loved, despite the fact that we made her cry for a little while when she was 10 months old.

Sarah commented on Aug 19 10 at 8:13 am

I could never let my babies cry-it-out for my own sake. I figure that as their mother, it is my duty to respond to their needs. I practiced co-sleeping with my son for three months and then he will wake up in the middle of the night about 4 times, I was exhausted during my 1 hour commute (each way) but when he turned 14 months, he started sleeping thru the night and transition from crib to toddler bed was completely smooth. Now my 7 month old daughter, still refuses to sleep in her crib most nights so I am still co-sleeping but will try start trying to get her to sleep in her crib again soon. I blame their poor sleeping beginnings to genetics, since my husband has a hard time sleeping or falling asleep.

Rosana commented on Aug 19 10 at 8:24 am

Seriously, I also let my babies cry for more than a minute when they wanted other things that weren’t good for them. I agree that it is a biased study, a child’s crying for more than a minute is not an indication that the parent is “emotionally unavailable” in a harmful way.

jenny tries too hard commented on Aug 19 10 at 9:09 am

I have always responded to my children’s cries, and I co-slept with both of them when they were little. Even now they sometimes wake up at night (they are three and a half now) with a bad dream or something, and I always go to them and lie down with them until they fall asleep again when that happens. CIO wouldn’t have fit my personality, philosophy, or parenting style. That said, I know plenty of kids who were sleep trained who are delightful and happy, and their parents got more sleep when they were babies than my husband and I did! It’s not like they just put their babies in cribs and walked away until morning. They all used graduated methods, and I guess that worked for them.

Manjari commented on Aug 19 10 at 9:32 am

Once my kids were over the 6 month mark, CIO- the going in every 20 minutes, not touching, not picking up, just firmly and cheerfully telling them it was OK, go to sleep- Ferberized my kids in a week. Another place the govt better keep its nose out of. And a MINUTE as the threshhold? Why don’t they just tell Mummy to sleep in the crib for the first three years- yeesh! It prolly took a minute for the crying to register, and a minute or two to get up and go to the bathroom. And if it was a legitimate feeding time, I’d go and get the bottle warmed first. Sorry, but I never felt it was necessary- or even healthy for the child- to jump up and race upon first whimpers.
For the record- good sleepers. well-adjusted, smart kids.

goddess commented on Aug 19 10 at 10:43 am

I think we just got incredibly blessed with a sleep champ – from birth. Having said that, I was absolutely MILITANT about putting the baby down as soon as he was drowsy (and I mean, from BIRTH). I didn’t put up with anyone “holding” him to sleep, and I still don’t (he’s thirteen months now). He has always been amazing at just falling asleep on his own. He actually prefers no fanfare. “Put me in my crib and walk away, please,” seems to be his motto. He smiles and reaches for his crib when he sees it, lays down quietly, and is asleep in minutes. On the other hand, when the occasional nightmare or disturbance crops up, we have never let him cry. We go to him immediately, bring him back to our bed, and lie down with him cuddling until he is ready to go back to bed. I would not have minded co-sleeping, but he wasn’t having it – he was always more comfortable in his bassinet, and now in his crib. He’s very clear about that! I am with Manjari – “CIO wouldn’t have fit my personality, philosophy, or parenting style.” However, I did use methods like bedtime routine, letting him dictate his own schedule with only very gradual nudging from me in one direction or another, and always, always, always putting him down before he fell asleep. So far, so good!

puasamanda commented on Aug 19 10 at 10:54 am

I was a Cry it out baby and not only graduated with honors from both high school and college, but I am also a loving person and have a great relationship with my parents. We let my son cry it out for 3 nights and the 3rd night he cried for about 2 minutes and grabbed his clean burp cloth (it’s his lovie) and snuggled in. He is a happy boy who sleeps 11-12 hours per night and crawls to his room to try to get in his crib at naptime. He still gives us hugs and slobbery baby kisses. I believe sleeping alone brings a child self confidence. the moms I know who co-sleep are constantly tired and complain about their baby’s sleep habits.

K. commented on Aug 19 10 at 1:24 pm

I think they need to define CIO. We co-slept and responded to every peep our daughter made for the first 22 months or so of her life. Once she was able to talk and understand that we were still in the other room, we slowly moved her to her own bed and sometimes let her cry for a minute or two after rocking/singing/patting, etc. We weren’t hard core sleep trainers or anything, but she did CIO a little once she was a toddler.

I think that it all depends on how you do it and the kid’s personality. I know some people who successfully sleep trained in a weekend. I couldn’t do it, but I know that it works really well for some families. On the extreme end of the spectrum, we have some acquaintances who sleep trained their 4 month old by simply not responding to him at all at night. Basically, he was put in his crib at night and they would get him up when the sun came down. This kid is withdrawn and my husband and I think it’s related to his parents’ unavailability and coldness (they’re pretty withdrawn people during the day too).

Magnoliama commented on Aug 19 10 at 1:53 pm

You people with children that sleep well make me sick!

bob commented on Aug 19 10 at 4:11 pm

I don’t understand why the parents who stayed in the rooms with their children, patting their backs and comforting them and talking softly to them, even think what they did qualifies as “Crying It Out.” To me, Crying It Out is when you leave the baby alone to cry and don’t respond at all for whatever period of time (and I do mean more than a couple minutes).

Linda commented on Aug 19 10 at 4:42 pm

Comments; The CIO approach has been questioned by the Infant Mental Health Association for many years based on the knowledge gainded from advanced, nonintrusive technology that allows us to see HOW babies brains develop and respond to stress. If parents understood what happens to a babies brain during episodes of intense distress, they would never even think about CIO methods again or even derivations of this extinction method. There are VERY effective ways to help babies find sleep, even the ‘hard core’ sleep disturbed babies. Allow your heart to be your guide, if it feels bad to do it, then it probably is. Ferber didn’t have access to the studies we have on infant brain development and the importance of the feelings of safety and security for a developing infant. All advocates for the baby ask is that parents look at options before they subject there babies and children to this Ferber and CIO approaches to baby sleep. Helen(Author of the Safe Sleep Space book 3rd ed & DVD)

Helen Stevens commented on Aug 19 10 at 5:46 pm

Ferberzing consists of starting out waiting for a couple minutes once they cry, walk in, speak softly, don’t touch, tell them they are fine, walking out. Then you increase that to 5 minutes, then 10, then 15, then 20. Never over 20 minutes. Only takes around 4 days, 7 tops. But you never leave them for hours. That’s the method I was always followed.

goddess commented on Aug 19 10 at 5:59 pm

I am not a parent who ever let my kids cry, ever, at night — my personal parenting philosophy is that I don’t stop being a mom at 8pm. It sucks sometimes, but it’s important to me.

However, I also concur that there’s a big difference between letting your kid cry for two minutes and / or staying in the room with them to comfort them for sleep training as opposed to, as one mom I knew did, leaving them alone to cry for FOUR HOURS. That, IMO, is abusive. Gentle sleep training is sometime a real necessity for some families, and I think it’s more than reasonable if your baby knows you are there — all you’re doing is changing the routine. Your presence and responsiveness is what matters.

Jeannie commented on Aug 19 10 at 6:13 pm

Even Ferber himself doesn’t agree with Ferberizing any more.

Linda commented on Aug 19 10 at 7:30 pm

Yikes. If I had to choose between CIO and Mommy having a nervous breakdown…I think CIO is more humane. That way Mommy is still around to do childcare. I accidentally started with CIO. I put them down for a nap, and then had to deal with the meter reader guy. The whole time I was dealing with him, I could hear them yelling. Finally, he left and I sprinted for the nursery, where they were both asleep. After that I started putting the kitchen timer on 10 or 15 minute intervals when they were reluctant but obviously tired. It worked for us, and they are generally good sleepers. Occasionally we end up with a baby in our bed halfway through the night, but it’s not a big deal.

Marj commented on Aug 20 10 at 12:08 pm

Don’t care what Ferber thinks of himself or his method anymore. The method worked exceedingly well for me and I’d do it again, LOL. Even Norma McCorvey changed her mind. Doesn’t mean I don’t support R v W anymore either.

goddess commented on Aug 20 10 at 2:06 pm

Well, as long as it worked and made bedtime more convenient for you, I guess that’s what’s important. @@.

Linda commented on Aug 21 10 at 5:12 am

For those parents against CIO, have fun staying up all night, every night with a frustrated, exhausted baby! Goodbye sex life, quiet evenings with your spouse, a chance to sit down and recoup from a long, hard day of childcare. Hello sleepless nights, all-day fatigue, kicks in the head from your co-sleeping kid! You may look, feel and act like a zombie after months and months of this, but at least you can remind yourself how much better you are than those terrible, selfish, well-rested parents who let their kids cry at night for a few nights of sleep training.

I give my all to my child every second of her waking hours every day. But when bedtime and naptime comes, she needs her sleep, and I need mine. We are BOTH so much happier after our successful sleep training, and I won’t feel a bit of guilt for it. Have fun, naysayers!

cg commented on Sep 08 10 at 2:45 pm

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