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How To Give Parenting Advice To Strangers

Posted by sierra on July 9th, 2010 at 8:59 pm

3631676118 5fa2d91168 300x225 How To Give Parenting Advice To StrangersDon’t.

Maybe you mean well, maybe you’re trying to help, maybe you are honestly concerned about that adorable child and her clueless mama.

But don’t offer advice. If you must intervene, offer help.

Otherwise you may find yourself the topic of a post like today’s Motherlode missive about a woman who confronted a mom with a crying baby at a grocery store checkout to tell her that crying is bad for babies.

Seriously? The phrase you were looking for, mysterious stranger, is “Can I help you with your groceries?”

I’m sure we’ve all been on the uncomfortable receiving end of stranger’s well-intentioned advice about how we’re handling our kids. When my oldest was a baby, I learned to carry a pair of baby shoes with me in my pockets so I could brandish the silly things at busybodies who harassed me about taking my daughter out with bare feet. As if a three-month-old was going to need shoes.

It’s tempting, when you see someone struggling with a child, to step in and try to fix it. But advice is pretty much always the wrong approach. No one likes being told they’re doing it wrong, especially not by a stranger. Assume for the moment that you don’t actually know better than that overwhelmed parent what the child needs.

Instead, think about what you can do to help. Can you help the mom or dad do what they’re doing better?

What’s your worst unwanted parenting advice story?

Photo: Jen Rab

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Should You Step In When a Parent is Yelling at Their Child in Public? | Strollerderby commented on Jul 16 10 at 1:11 pm

I don’t have a worst story, but I have a best one. I was in the Beijing airport late at night. Our flight from Guangzhou was miserable – the AC in the plane was broken and my son was badly overdressed. His sweatshirt and pants were soaked with sweat. And he was starving. I had some light clothes and food for him in the suitcase, but he was screaming and flailing and I was too dead tired to do it all myself. I carried him to a row of chairs and collapsed, and tried to ease the suitcase open with my one free hand, which wasn’t really working.

An elderly couple saw me and came over to sit next to me. They didn’t know a word of English and I couldn’t remember my few Mandarin phrases, but they helped me change my son and fish the baby food out to feed him. My son calmed down eventually. The couple and I sat there smiling at each other for a while – I wish I could have said something other than, “Xie xie, xie xie.” The wife said something to me – maybe it was advice, or maybe it was encouragement. When they were sure we were all right, they left us.

We don’t tend to attract advice-giving strangers in general, though. My son is a charmer rather than a crier when he’s out in public.

AwesomeCloud's mom commented on Jul 09 10 at 10:24 pm

Really? People got on your case about shoes on an infant? I’ve never heard of this. Worst unwanted parenting advice I ever got was how I needed to stop holding my baby all the time or I would spoil him. I think he was about a month old at the time.

Mistress_Scorpio commented on Jul 09 10 at 10:27 pm

And AwesomeCloud’s mom, that is an awesome story.

Mistress_Scorpio commented on Jul 09 10 at 10:29 pm

Amen!

Ailsa commented on Jul 09 10 at 11:00 pm

Mistress_Scorpio, people told me the same thing when my daughter was born! They told me that at 3-weeks-old, I should put her in a pack-n-play alone while I go take a shower. The advice was to let her cry while I relaxed. Um, yeah, NO. I held and fed my daughter on demand for the first 8 months or so, and now she’s a very secure and well-developed fourteen-month-old who is NOT “spoiled”.

Lindsay commented on Jul 10 10 at 12:45 am

I get the spoiled thing all the time too. I especially hated “Quit kissing on him! He’s a boy!” Grrrrr.

JBoogie commented on Jul 10 10 at 7:50 am

PS I think a lot of people–especially when it’s coming from grandparents–say the spoiled thing so you will put them down and they can pick them up. What they didn’t realize was that all it did was piss me off and make me never want to let them get their hands on him.

JBoogie commented on Jul 10 10 at 7:53 am

I havent had to many strangers offer unwanted advise. When I was pregnant with my oldest boy I looked really young and strangers (mainly the older demographic) would get snarky and give dirty looks.

JZ commented on Jul 10 10 at 9:02 am

JBoogie, I totally agree with you about the grandparents thing! I once had my MIL practically inhale her Easter dinner so that she could take my son from me (he was 4 weeks old and sleeping on my chest as I sat on the sofa) without asking first. Just before dinner he was crying and my FIL said to just let him cry or he will be spoiled. It turns out the poor child was developing serious reflux and had every reason to cry. Needless to say, I left feeling very angry that day.

Samantha commented on Jul 10 10 at 9:09 am

yes! yes! yes! we have a whole blog — http://www.mymommymanners.com — dedicated to this kind of stuff. compassion, not correction is the way to go!

jodi commented on Jul 10 10 at 10:07 am

Wow, there were times where one of my kids did have to be put in the crib or the pack-n-play so that I could take a shower or start dinner. Luckily there are all well-developed 10, 12 and 21 year olds who are not *damaged*.
To each. I don’t think one way or necessarily better, but each parent needs to figure out what’s the best way for all concerned.

goddess commented on Jul 10 10 at 10:07 am

My kid must look cold, because I have people constantly wanting to bundle him up. It’s usually his grandparents (who had a minor freak-out when I said he was riding out the heat-wave in our room because it has AC. AC is too cold.) but sometimes strangers, too. I have noticed that here in Detroit, everyone carries their infants around in snowsuits with their carriers entirely covered by a blanket. They find me a little strange for thinking that fresh air is perferrable.

JesBelle commented on Jul 10 10 at 11:09 am

Oh definitely, goddess, there have been times when I’ve had to put my son down and let him cry so I can go pee or pour my tenth cup of coffee for the morning, but when I was holding him I didn’t appreciate anyone telling me I’m spoiling him. You can’t spoil a baby with love from mama. :-)

JBoogie commented on Jul 10 10 at 11:17 am

I totally agree with the grandparent scene, JBoogie. I was once complained to by the mother-in-law of a friend that the only reason my friend was breastfeeding was to keep the baby away from her (the MIL). It was my friend’s third child and she is a professional lactation consultant. And JesBelle, my mom kept trying to put a hat on my son when he was an infant. It was August during a heat wave and she was always coming at that kid with a hat or a blanket.

Mistress_Scorpio commented on Jul 10 10 at 11:25 am

Gotta agree with you there JBoogie.
One of my favorite times was when my 3rd, my daughter was a newborn. She used to love to snuggle with her head up under my chin and fall asleep after feedings. It’s the closest feeling to pure bliss I have ever felt. I’d just scrunch down and cuddle her there for at least an hour. My grandma probably would have said I was spoiling her. She was just a snuggle bug- and still is. Not spoilt at all either!

goddess commented on Jul 10 10 at 12:30 pm

Comments
I’m sharing the story of my sister-in-law in Australia. She and her then 1 year old son was on a bus when, of all places, all of sudden her son started crying( having one his tantrums ). Then one of passengers came up to her and accused her of being a bad mother to her son then asked them to leave the bus! Of course, my sis-in-law was shocked and speechless and too angry to speak. She was so distraught and wanted cry too. Not one of the other passengers sided with her. Well, she did left the bus together with her crying son.

roni

roni commented on Jul 10 10 at 2:19 pm

While pregnant with my second child, a woman at Target told me I should be buying aluminum-free deodorant instead of anti-perspirant, because it was healthier.

Meanwhile, her daughters (around 6 and 8) were running around the store BAREFOOT. No shoes in sight, they’d walked through the parking lot that way. Tetanus, anyone?

GRRRRRRRR!!!!

La Rêveuse commented on Jul 10 10 at 2:23 pm

Oops, my 8 + ) turned into 8). Can you fix that?

La Rêveuse commented on Jul 10 10 at 2:24 pm

Yeah, confronting strange people in public is never a good idea. I might make an exception in the case of abuse, but I’d probably just alert store management or something. That being said, I seriously hate it when people leave their tny babies to cry in their car seats when out in public. I’m not even nursing anymore and I get those false letdown pangs. I always think those parents are so freakin’ clueless. If a total strnager is having pangs over your baby crying, how can you feel nothing???

Linda commented on Jul 10 10 at 4:00 pm

And Roni, that’s terrible. When my youngest was about 18 months old, we were on an airplane and he started crying. These two drunk men in the seats behind me started commenting loudly and belligerently about how I should spank him and let him know who was boss. I called the flight attendant and basically told her that she could either shut them up or I would.

Linda commented on Jul 10 10 at 4:03 pm

On the subway yesterday with my hot and cranky kid, a woman asked me “Are you the mom or the nanny?” I said mom, she replied, “You should learn to discipline your child.” What would you have replied?

JJ commented on Jul 10 10 at 9:55 pm

tho i have no kids of my own yet people are alway saying how good i am with them i’d like to think i dont try and advice people on there kids i do however if i’m say in the supermarket behind a tired looking mum and a crying child i’ll keep the child entertain usually with something like peekaboo while parent sorts out the check out i like to think it’s helpful

julianne commented on Jul 11 10 at 8:46 am

@JJ– My reply would have been something along the lines of “You should learn to keep your opinions to yourself, bitch”. Or, I would have physically attacked her. Either one, really.

JBoogie commented on Jul 11 10 at 11:20 am

@JJ: to the mom or nanny question, I would have answered “none of your damn business,” in the most menacing tone I could muster. Her choice of words to inquire about your son were already questionable. To her second statement I would have replied that I was already doing a better job than her mother had done with her. I love to point out to snobby people just how poorly raised they appear to be. In any case, so sorry you had to go through that.

Mistress_Scorpio commented on Jul 11 10 at 11:37 am

Next time I am the recipient of unwanted parenting advice, I shall either be employing JBoogie’s physical assault services or calling the Mistress_Scorpio sharp response hotline.

Voice of Reason commented on Jul 11 10 at 11:48 am

JJ: I am impressed that you didn’t punch this woman in her mouth. I’m 7 months pregnant and I think I would have either a) went into hysterics or b) told her to shut the f*ck up.

MomofBeans commented on Jul 12 10 at 7:59 am

Let’s just say that yesterday I needed a tee-shirt at the store that says “Yes, I am married. Its July and I’m 8 months pregnant and my rings don’t fit. Eff off you judgemental twit.” as I was on the receiving end of no fewer than four direct to me comments about the dangers of having an out of wedlock child by old ninnies.
And y’all can probably figure that I agree with the grandparent thing…well, at least with my IL’s. And yeah, I heard something as redingeddiculous as I was only BFing to keep my MIL from her right to feed her grandson.

PlumbLucky commented on Jul 12 10 at 7:59 am

PlumbLucky–I can’t even come up with a coherent response to those out of wedlock remarks. I would have been so freaking stunned if someone would have actually said something like that to me. If I could have gotten my wits about me quickly though, I would have loved to say something like “I would have married him…if I only knew who he was. I just can’t remember if it was Jim Bob or Billy Ray…..”

JBoogie commented on Jul 12 10 at 8:10 am

I am white and my son is biracial (black/white). I had him in the back carrier one day and was handing him grapes. A woman on the street screamed at me, demanding to know if I would “treat a white child that way.” I’m not sure what she even meant, so I just said “Have we met? Because I only take parenting advice from people I know.”

mamaoftwo commented on Jul 12 10 at 9:58 am

@JBoogie – well, I considered the source and the rest of the context of their rant and (hopefully not offending anyone with this analogy) went “Southern” on them. Example? Turned the “unmarried teenage high school dropout with no home training” to “really? Try married professional woman in her late 30s who had a mother and grandmother who taught her that respect is EARNED and who pays for your social security?”

PlumbLucky commented on Jul 12 10 at 10:10 am

PlumbLucky: LOVE IT. My family is Southern, but we usually take this a step further and it goes into a territory we refer to as “showing your ass.” I have done this several times this summer (most recently at an H&R Block).

MomofBeans commented on Jul 12 10 at 11:37 am

PlumbLucky/mamaoftwo: I am floored by the gall of the people who subjected you to these experiences. It isn’t the kids in need of physical discipline, it’s these adults!!

Mistress_Scorpio commented on Jul 12 10 at 12:07 pm

MomofBeans: “showing your ass” – I LOL’d!

Mistress_Scorpio commented on Jul 12 10 at 12:09 pm

The strangest thing a stranger said to me wasn’t really advice. I was standing in line at Target buying a baby monitor and the woman behind me said very rudely, “How big is your house that you need to have a baby monitor?” I just looked at her with ‘are-you-an-idiot’ eyes and then turned back around.

KT commented on Jul 12 10 at 2:43 pm

“Not nearly as big as your mouth. You want to close the door? You’re letting all the heat out.”

Mistress_Scorpio commented on Jul 12 10 at 6:33 pm

I’m 8 months pregnant and wear my wedding ring on my necklace chain. I’m waiting for somebody to say something because I have the perfect response stored up: “You saw I was pregnant and your first thought was to look at my HAND rather than my FACE, where you would have seen my ring around my neck? You judgmental asshole.”

Also, I look young, so I’m also waiting for somebody to tell me to practice safe sex or something so that I can point out that I’m 30 and married and this baby was planned, fuck you very much.

And now, reading these comments, I have to say I think I may be arrested for battery if somebody has the nerve to tell me some of these things during the parental boot camp period.

Course, I say that, but I’m rather shy so my usual response is to avoid eye contact, shake my head, and get away.

lynn commented on Jul 13 10 at 2:43 pm

Comments: I was grocery shopping with my son when he was 2 months old when my formerly-sleeping-peacefully-in-his-stroller baby woke up and started screaming with hunger — while my husband and the diaper bag were a couple aisles away. As I was frantically trying to soothe the baby and find my husband so I could get the diaper bag and get somewhere where I could sit down to nurse him, a woman felt the need to tell me “he’s crying because he wants to be held.” Like that hadn’t occurred to me. And I was just keeping him in the car seat because I enjoyed the sound of screaming.

(I had milk production issues so my son was both breastfed and bottle fed. Meaning I couldn’t just pop him on the boob. And resulting in nearly everyone feeling entitled to judge my feeding choices)

Debbiepenguin commented on Jul 13 10 at 5:44 pm

Didn’t see any discussion of carseats. I have a hard time resisting telling people that they are out of line with a 5 month old facing forward. Sometimes I do it, hoping they will hate me, but go home and google it and realize they are being dipsh*ts.

And I overheard a lively 5 year old girl repeatedly asking her grandmother why there were no chicks in the eggs they bought. Grandma kept getting more agitated with her, insisting they talk about it later… I so wanted to answer the damned question. Chicken reproduction: clearly a taboo subject.

smirkhouse commented on Jul 14 10 at 11:39 am

hahahaha……my husband’s uncle’s new wife went out and bought my 7 mo. old son shoes because he always only had socks on. Well, her $15 went to waste- I only managed to get them on him 2-3 times. Babies don’t need shoes! Maybe knee pads, lol, if they’re crawling, or a helmet if learning to walk. See how many odd looks and “advice” you get then!!!!

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