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School Slates Fried Chicken Lunch for MLK Day
A Colorado school district is apologizing after its menu of fried chicken and collard greens for Martin Luther King Jr. Day was criticized as racist.
And they’re surprised by this?
The menu released by the Denver Public schools read: “In honor of M.L. King Southern-Style Chicken w/ biscuit, collard greens or sweet potatoes, peach cobbler.” Kids who opted out could have a turkey or ham chef salad or PB&J or grilled cheese sandwiches.
It was supposed to be Friday’s meal in Denver – like most schools in the country, Denver’s are closed on Monday to actually honor Dr. King’s birthday. But after an uproar inside and out of the district, the meal was pulled – replaced with an ordinary and not stereotypically black meal.
District spokesman Michael Vaughn told the AP the meal was well intentioned but “highly insensitive in light of certain hurtful cultural sterotypes still harbored in parts of our society.”
Other members of the school community were quick to write off the issue – School Board President Nate Easley, who is black, told the Denver Post he’s more concerned with the success and failures of the students – and he thinks King would be too. “If Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was alive today, I think he would be more concerned about our outcomes of our students than what they are eating to honor him,” Easley said.
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School in Hot Water For Separating Kids by Eye Color | Strollerderby commented on Jan 22 10 at 2:38 pmStacie commented on Jan 17 10 at 2:13 pmhttp://www.knoxnews.com/news/2008/jan/13/atlanta-neighborhood-commemorates-childhood-civil-/
“A favorite meal was the Sunday feast of fried chicken, collard greens, black-eyed peas and corn bread.”
Is it racist to choose a meal that’s pretty close to an actual favorite of Dr. King?
Gib commented on Jan 17 10 at 3:17 pmI was about to post a comment asking if anyone knew what the favourite food of MLK was, and to have that. Stacie beat me to it – if it was his favourite – then have it.
I’m an Aussie. And I love barbequed prawns. If you want to commemorate me, chucking a shrimp on the barbie is not culturally insensitive.
Ri-chan commented on Jan 17 10 at 5:14 pm
Sara commented on Jan 17 10 at 5:17 pmHe’d probably just say Yum.
jenny tries too hard commented on Jan 17 10 at 5:22 pmoh come on…
Laure68 commented on Jan 17 10 at 6:28 pmI agree with the others that this is not something to be bothered about. What concerns me is that these ultra-PC types of things take attention away from real problems. (Access to education, health care, real equality in the workplace, etc.)
cavale commented on Jan 17 10 at 7:42 pmi’m confused. why is this supposed to be offensive?
Lisa commented on Jan 17 10 at 8:16 pmThat’s Southern food, not black food. Get a grip.
manz commented on Jan 17 10 at 10:00 pmI agree with the other commenters.
Allison commented on Jan 17 10 at 11:00 pmSo now food is racist?!?!
Mistress_Scorpio commented on Jan 17 10 at 11:17 pmThe usual suspects never fail to disappoint.
GP commented on Jan 18 10 at 9:26 amI won’t let you down either, Scorp. I agree. Food is a tradition folks are proud of. Jewish people have their seder meals, many components of which symbolize both good and bad things that happened to them. The newspaper article said ONE parent called to complain. ONE parent. All cultures have foods that people associate with them and there’s nothing wrong with that.
TolaniLucia commented on Jan 18 10 at 9:34 amFood has been used as a way to validate people’s racism for a long time. Why is this such a foreign concept for people?
PlumbLucky commented on Jan 18 10 at 9:42 amSo…is it offensive that many places serve corned beef and cabbage on St. Patrick’s day and that most “celebrate” what should be a saint’s feast day by getting tanked?
Interesting that several sources have found information that the meal in question was one of MLK’s faves.
And ONE parent?!?!
Mistress_Scorpio commented on Jan 18 10 at 10:48 amTolaniLucia, it’s a foreign concept to people because they don’t *want* to get it. They derail, they justify, they invalidate, because they will never have to walk in the shoes of the other. They don’t have to understand, or even take into consideration. They take pride in their ignorance and hold tight, because it confirms their worldview.
Lee commented on Jan 18 10 at 1:56 pmThat’s just a delicious traditional Sunday dinner in the South – on the table in both black and white households.
Mistress_Scorpio commented on Jan 18 10 at 2:58 pmAnd flying the confederate flag is just a sign of southern pride, right?
Allison commented on Jan 18 10 at 4:20 pmOh yes, all bow down to politically correct, high-horse, holier-than-thou, players of the race card. I’m so sick of this. My (white) southern family has been eating that same meal almost weekly for generations. Clearly we are only “validating racism” and “holding on to ignorance”. Yes WE are the ignorant ones *snort*. God forbid some midwest schoolchildren are exposed to a little of the food culture of the south while they celebrate MLK, who hailed from Atlanta, Georgia. You let those kids taste peach cobbler and next thing you know they will be putting on black face!
Laure68 commented on Jan 18 10 at 4:28 pmMistress_Scorpio – you cannot possibly compare flying the confederate flag to serving fried chicken. The confederate flag is a symbol from times of slavery.
If I may, I’d like to ask why you think you understand this situation better then others. Are you from a minority group?
Again, what I worry about is the focus on these issues instead of real issues. I’ll admit I am not African American myself (I’m Arabic ethnicity, and my parents are from France, so they do understand prejudice.) I did grow up in a part of So. California that was very diverse. Then, for work, I moved to the Bay Area, and I am shocked how segregated it is here. I meet white liberals all the time who act horrified at things like this (serving Fried Chicken), but when it comes time to find a school for their children, they want the whitest one possible. To me, it seems like they focus on these things to make themselves feel better.
jenny tries too hard commented on Jan 18 10 at 5:26 pmHere’s the thing, though, Scorpio… If it was just assumed that a black man would call fried chicken and collard greens his favorite meal, that might be racist, like the Fuzzy Zeller/Tiger Woods thing. But honoring a man with his favorite meal is not racist.
If my dad got an award and the committee automatically looked at his last name, saw it was a Mexican name, and served tacos at the dinner, that might be racist. If they found out his favorite meal, and served it, that wouldn’t be racist, whether it was enchiladas or fried chicken or spaghetti.
sarah commented on Jan 18 10 at 7:53 pmComments I was born and raised in the south,this is the food we all ate, wheather you were black or white. Now if they would have declared a cotton picking after school program,and served only watermelon and grape kool-aid, then you all would have something to complain about.
Mistress_Scorpio commented on Jan 18 10 at 8:06 pmLaur68, simply being a member of a minority doesn’t give me special insight into issues of prejudice, nor does it anyone for that matter. I continue to work to educate myself. Blogs such as Racialicious, Stuff White People Do, and the online articles Derailing For Dummies and Unpacking The Invisible Knapsack were good starts to opening my eyes to assumptions I was making, even as a minority.
The experiences you report in California ring similarly to my experience with white liberals on the East coast.
The reason I made the comparison is because it is the same mentality that would rationalize serving fried chicken as a way of honoring Dr. King, as would defend the confederate flag as simply a symbol of southern pride.
Jenny, the hypothetical you provided is EXACTLY what happened in this case. The first commenter was the one who looked up King’s reported favorite meal. Not the school’s lunch planners. If I am wrong, please, anybody, point me to the link where the school reported that THEY read fried chicken was King’s favorite meal, they thought they were honoring him by serving it.
Nevertheless, there will always be the Allison’s of the world, denying that this could possibly have been an insensitive choice, because (sigh) she is SO tired of having the ‘race card’ played on her! Because hearing about it must be SO much more of a burden than constantly living with being on the receiving end of the backhanded complements, the little slights, the unintentional insensitivity, the intentional insults, the sometimes outright injustice of the reality of being black in America. (You know, like having people like Sara helpfully let us know where the bar is so we are justified in her eyes to complain. Thanks so much for that.)
The funny thing is that this issue doesn’t offend me, although, without judging those that find it offensive, I recognize the potential for offense. It does me no good to invalidate their feelings.
The sad thing about this issue is whether intentionally or unintentionally, the school effectively reduced recognition of this great man to a fried chicken and collard greens lunch. What a throwaway gesture.
jenny tries too hard commented on Jan 18 10 at 8:43 pmWhere did you read that the school lunch planners DIDN’T know it was Dr. King’s favorite meal?
You’re right, it could’ve been an insensitive choice. But without actual evidence, it’s exactly what an assumption of a black man’s or a Mexican’s favorite meal is—a prejudice. Without knowing what the motivation is, you judge. It’s really odd, when you consider that fried chicken and collard greens are generally thought of as a Southern, more than specifically black, dish. Furthermore, what exactly makes you think they are reducing MLK to a lunch? Are you seriously suggesting that this school differs from just about every other public school in the nation by NOT teaching about MLK? It seems unlikely, but if you can show me where it says that the school is only honoring Dr. King through the lunch menu, I’ll happily agree.
jeannesager commented on Jan 18 10 at 9:29 pmWhat troubles me is the comments that come from people noting this is a popular southern menu. I know it is – I’m married to a Southerner and lived in the South at the beginning of my marriage. But this wasn’t a celebration of the South.
It was touted as a way to honor MLK – and there was no mention of this being his “favorite meal” on the menu sent out or by school staff in their apologies. I find it hard to believe that they wouldn’t tout that fact if it was, indeed, their reasoning behind the menu.
What’s also being discounted so easily is how often the words “fried chicken” are used in racially derisive jokes, comments, etc. Google “Obama jokes” and “fried chicken” and you’ll want to take a shower after reading what you find.
The point is, there is a long standing historical context to this meal – and it’s not a positive one. That said, it’s hard to see how anyone could be surprised by this reaction – by one parent or one hundred.
Mistress_Scorpio commented on Jan 18 10 at 9:34 pmJenny, you can’t prove a negative. Given the absence of any other information or explanation, the school made what they called an insensitive choice, apologized swiftly and appropriately and provided no further information. For those who call it racially insensitive, whether intentional or otherwise, I recognize how and why they do so, even if I don’t agree. The usual arguments why no one in their right mind ever, ever, ever could find this offensive was the thrust of my commentary. And I’m familiar with many public schools recognition of MLK… numerous teachers in my extended family in varying areas, anectdotal, yes, but the stories are very similar in that a rote listening to the “I Have A Dream” speech is the most that can be hoped for.
GP commented on Jan 18 10 at 9:57 pmI find serving chicken, which is filled with shit and hormones, offensive for any and all reasons.
Allison commented on Jan 18 10 at 10:37 pmI think you have completely missed my point. Why is it so surprising to people that while studying a historical figure in school that they would serve regional dishes from wherever the person hails from? I get that there are jokes about black people and fried chicken. However, I think we do a disservice to these kids by having a knee-jerk reaction to this. Sometimes, fried chicken is just fried chicken. I think it is incredibly stupid to infer racism from a MENU.
Mistress_Scorpio commented on Jan 18 10 at 10:58 pmThanks for driving home my point, Allison.
Eric commented on Jan 18 10 at 11:18 pmGP, I challenge you to find hormone free meat.
Laure68 commented on Jan 18 10 at 11:59 pmThat’s a good point about them not actually saying that this was a meal Dr. King enjoyed. I do see what you are saying, but I just think that things like this take away from the huge challenges minorities still face. I guess that is a separate issue, though.
I am sorry to go off-subject, but I have to say to GP and Eric that chicken raised in the US has not had hormones in it since the 1950′s. That’s all chicken, not just organic. (Antibiotics are used.)
GP commented on Jan 19 10 at 7:29 amI can probably find it right down the road in my home state of Virginia at Polyface Farms that Michael Pollan talks about in his book. The VAST MAJORITY of chicken, though, is filled with drugs, feces and other garbage. Certainly they don’t use small-scaled, “free-range” farmed chickens for school lunches. Besides, I don’t really want to kill a chicken, even if it was raised and killed “well” so, why not just say no. OK…so off topic. *I* never mentioned hormones.
Mistress_Scorpio commented on Jan 19 10 at 9:41 amLaure68, you are absolutely right that making issues of relatively small incidents take away from large challenges minorities face. However, the constant stream of small indignities toward any minority can have great cumulative effect. Acknowledging that, I think, goes a long way to understanding.
Eric commented on Jan 19 10 at 1:36 pmGP- you did mention hormones. “…which is filled with shit and hormones.” My point is hormone free meat would be serious frankenfood. You want a weird, genetically engineered, unholy food: hormone free meat. Hormones are in ALL meat. You, me, the dog, the cow, hormones all throughout. That was my only point. You can’t find hormone free meat in Viginia or anwhere else. You CAN find meat from animals that weren’t fed supplemental hormones.
GP commented on Jan 19 10 at 3:28 pmSorry about that Eric, you’re absolutely right. I meant to say “antibiotics” not hormones. My bad.
GP commented on Jan 19 10 at 3:29 pmI guess that’s why I prefer Quorn…
jeannesager commented on Jan 19 10 at 3:34 pmGP, as a vegetarian, I used to love Quorn, but I’ve reduced my consumption after news like this: http://www.cspinet.org/new/200909171.html
Eric commented on Jan 19 10 at 4:16 pmNo prob GP. You made me look up what the heck Quorn was! I read the page “What is Quorn?” and I’m still not sure I know!
jenny tries too hard commented on Jan 19 10 at 4:29 pmgood grief babble is tedious lately…I propose we all go out for fried chicken, tacos, corned beef, spaghetti, and a good stiff drink…
sarah commented on Jan 19 10 at 6:37 pmHere’s the rest of the district’s response:
The Food Service Department often runs a promotion in celebration of his birthday. The promotion includes posters and public-address announcements promoting the special meal served in the cafeterias, as well as his message of remembering to celebrate with the spirit of giving back to the community …… ” a day on, not a day off.” A menu committee researches all promotions and has utilized the MLK Center of Atlanta as a resource for information about this famous leader. Elaine Hall, from the Archives Department at the King Center in Atlanta, has informed the committee that Dr. King’s favorite meal includes fried chicken, collard greens, cornbread, and sweet potato pie. Fried chicken is also a favorite item for the students of HISD. Food services offers a healthier “Oven Fried” version and has featured it this past year for Grandparent’s Day and as an option on their special Thanksgiving menu.
GP commented on Jan 19 10 at 7:03 pmThanks for the link, jeanne.
Scout's Honor commented on Jan 20 10 at 8:50 pmI think this is being over-sensitive. If it was his favorite meal, why not? I actually grew up clueless to these stereotypes. In California, I never heard of racial stereotypes of food until my husband explained watermelon could be conceived as racist. Maybe in the south? To me, it’s a delicious fruit as is fried chicken, sweet potatoes, and cobbler. But hold the greens. I hate ‘em. I don’t think many people from the West have even heard of food as being racial. Seriously.
Chicken Hammer commented on Feb 03 10 at 11:05 amThey are serving one of MLK’s favorite meals to honor his birthday. What’s the problem with that? Some people are just way to over the top with wanting to play the race card. Mistress_Scorpio you are race baiting.
Makemaney Online commented on Jun 03 10 at 1:32 pmwhat the heck… a food racist
Dan commented on Jan 17 11 at 11:06 amThere are plenty options that could have been offered like BBQ ribs,poke salad and watermelon
edro commented on Mar 19 11 at 10:58 amWHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!!!! NlGGA PLEASE!!!!! You people need to watch this Movie called Bullworth; starring Warren Beatty and Halle Berry. jeez you guys are a bunch of apologetic ass kissers
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