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Naked Christmas Card: Funny or Obscene?

Posted by sierra on December 17th, 2009 at 12:10 pm

xmas20092 680x1024 199x300 Naked Christmas Card: Funny or Obscene?Technology writer Robert X. Cringely has a wacky family tradition: every year, his family poses nude for their annual Christmas card.

This year, a clerk at their local Kinko’s refused to print the cards. Her reason: she thinks they’re obscene.

Cringely points out that their holiday photo shows no more skin than any family’s beach photos would.

The Cringley family is appearing naked without revealing anything. Models and pop stars get away with this all the time. But a middle class family playing that game? Obscene.

At least by the standards of one Kinko’s employee.

The difference, of course, is that there are kids in the shot. Kids+Nudity+Photography has become a social taboo on par with practicing Witchcraft in the Middle Ages. You might not be up to no good, but you go there at your peril.

And what of the Cringely children? Will these kids ever forgive their parents for these stunts? Are they being scarred for life? Or are they in on the joke?

Cringley readily admits that posing nude for holiday cards is not exactly the kids’ idea of a good time. They’re happy enough to pose if they’re well paid, though. This year’s bribe was $2 worth of gummy candy per child.

Personally, I think Kinko’s was in the wrong here: the card is clearly a joke and doesn’t actually show any naughty bits. Equating it to child porn seems paranoid and silly. I wouldn’t do this with my kids, but I would rather live in a world where the Cringely’s weird taste in family portraits is not “obscene”.

What do you think? Would you pose like this with your kids for a holiday card? Would you print the cards at Kinko’s? Is it hilarious or obscene? Something else?

Photo: Robert X. Cringely

 Naked Christmas Card: Funny or Obscene?

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17 Comments

I think it’s Kinko’s right to refuse to print these. The family can find a printer who will do or print them themselves. I think they’re a little tacky, but certainly this card will stand out! And no I don’t think it’s obscene – just kind of classless.

BlackOrchid commented on Dec 17 09 at 1:18 pm

I am so tired of the nudity=obscenity theme.

Bec commented on Dec 17 09 at 1:24 pm

i think it’s wrong…but my reason is that the kids don’t want to do it. If the kids don’t want to and you have to pay them, it’s over…stop it already. And don’t get me started on what precedent it’s setting to teach them that if they get paid, it’s alright to get nude.

g8grl commented on Dec 17 09 at 2:09 pm

I disagree with g8grl: There are dozens if not hundreds of things that families do that involve bribing kids. “Here, kids, have some fries and we’ll put on your music if you’ll just hold it together for the last 10 miles of this car trip.” “Sweetheart, I love you and I know you hate running errands with me, but when we’re done, we’ll do something fun for you.” If the kids only need a handful of gummy candy to sway them to participate, it seems totally reasonable to me.

Rosa commented on Dec 17 09 at 2:15 pm

“Models and pop stars get away with this all the time.”

Granted, but models and pop stars are doing it to be provocative and sexy. Which is probably why some people have a problem with it. Remember the uproar over Miley Cyrus in a sheet? I personally find the coyness of this off-putting, so my reaction is an eye roll not a pearl clutch.

MsC commented on Dec 17 09 at 2:18 pm

I’m with Bec, mostly. Nudity isn’t, should never be, obscene. Because this is a free country, goshdarnit, and Kinko’s is a private enterprise, of course they’re perfectly within their rights to refuse to print it. And I’m perfectly within mine to think them sad human beings with funny moral priorities for doing it.

vika commented on Dec 17 09 at 2:53 pm

I agree with g8grl. I’m all for nudity, family or otherwise, but the fact that the kids needed bribing tells us that they preferred not to do it, and I think it’s important to teach kids that they get to decide how much body-privacy they want (with exceptions for necessary hygiene or medical needs, of course). Otherwise, the 16-year-old may someday put aside his/her own comfort issues when the 40-year-old offers him/her $100 for posing nude. Like ya do, right? However, I don’t think it was the kinko employee’s right to refuse to print it, because the photo is clearly not sexualized and hence not obscene. Does she also refuse to print naked baby in bathtub pics?

Jen Hunter commented on Dec 17 09 at 3:56 pm

Odd? Yes. Obscene? No.

Whit commented on Dec 17 09 at 6:00 pm

I don’t think it’s obscene either. I do, however, think it’s in poor taste.

I see that they are going for an edgy, not-your-typical-christmas card, but you have to be more creative than this to get to that.

EverSoLoud commented on Dec 17 09 at 6:43 pm

Rosa, how can you compare running a few more errands or holding it together to getting naked. Really? Anyway, maybe the kids had good reasons for not wanted to get naked. Maybe the older kids don’t like getting naked in front of the younger kids. My point is when it comes to nakedness/private parts, kids should not be coerced into doing it for something as trivial and an edgy Christmas pic. I don’t think it’s obscene or whatever but if they don’t want to do it when initially asked, that should be respected.

g8grl commented on Dec 18 09 at 3:28 pm

I think its classic, holidays are all about tradition. Mr. Cringley i bet you will have a few followers next year. Merry christmas. For everybody else complaining about vulgar nudity just turn on mtv and see what our kids are watching this is classy and respectful

Jason commented on Dec 21 09 at 8:37 pm

I think it’s goofy and silly – not obscene. And I am generally not comfortable with nudity (so it’s not something I would do personally). Although as someone else mentioned, Kinko’s was within it’s rights to refuse to print it.

Marj commented on Dec 21 09 at 10:16 pm

If these people are nudists and their friends and family generally see them with no clothes on this card is appropriate. If they generally wear clothes then I would say this card is inappropriate; that is, if they are going for shock factor something is wrong. Some nudist families will have two different cards, one for textile friends and one for nudist friends. I certainly would not go to any old printer to get these printed. I know that many people have issues with nudity and I feel it is important to respect and be sensitive to those people. How did this get publicized? Someone with an in-your-face attitude I suspect.
I have known professional photographers that have photographed families in the nude at European Nudist resorts. They used american photo labs where they knew this wouldn’t be a problem and no one would be offended. Any one at the lab who doesn’t want to see nudity is not exposed to it. In Europe, where nude painted models walk around a Printers Convention, one might not even notice the nudity in this card.

John commented on Nov 06 11 at 3:04 pm

it would be cuter if it was babies..not to thrilled with the side boob from “mom” that could be covered better

jess commented on Nov 29 11 at 3:35 pm

In my family, we always joke around and do not take life too seriously. However, if I asked my 7 year old son to pose nude for a photo, he’d lose it. I’m with most of the panel on this one… We spend countless hours subtly instilling in kids that their bodies are their own, no adult can look at it naked if it isn’t a parent… so, if you want a funny card, perhaps just lock your kids up in a dog crate. That kills. But, this is not funny. Now, if just “mom” was in the photo….

CML commented on Dec 09 11 at 3:10 pm

I don’t think nudity itself is obscene and neither do my two daughters (4 & 6).

That said, with all the effort I’m putting into the whole “our bodies are our own and no one should be looking at our naked bodies, and if someone tries to look at our naked bodies, or tries to touch our naked bodies, we tell Mommy and Daddy, blah, blah, blah…” – I can’t see any part of this being a good idea.

I also second the others who say that bribing your kids to pose in the nude is a baaaaaaad idea. Bribing them to eat their peas? Sure. I’ve done it. Bribing them to pose with Santa? I did that Sunday. Bribing them to pose naked on a Christmas card? No way. Frankly, I feel sorry for these kids. This is just bad parenting, all around.

Tommy commented on Dec 13 11 at 9:23 am

I think this is an awesome photo! Our family are involved in social naturism which this image supports and such an image (with no ‘bits’ revealed) would be a great naturist publications. What an awesome cover photo!
Keep your family proud of who they are and what they look like, with or without their clothes. ;o)

lisa commented on Dec 18 11 at 1:17 am

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