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They Say: For Better Baby Sleep, Toughen Up!
If you’re not happy with your baby’s sleep habits, you need only look in a mirror to find the reason. A new study concludes that, when it comes to whether a baby’s with bad sleep habits, it’s (all together now!) the mother’s fault.
In fact, frequent night wakings was all your fault way back when, back when you were still pregnant, maybe even before the child was conceived.
The Wall Street Journal summarized research, published in the latest issue of Child Development, which finds that mothers-to-be who think a baby crying at night is a sign he is suffering distress and, therefore, needs to be comforted will raise babies who wake more at night. But mothers who believe parents should draw boundaries and not get involved in night crying jags will have babies who sleep better.
To determine the links between parents attitudes and baby’s sleep, researchers attached ankle monitors to the babies and also asked the parents to keep sleep journals.
The parents who went in and soothed their kids — or nursed them or brought them to bed — had children who woke more during the night. (The parents on this team are known as self-aggrandizing weaklings with a martyr complex.)
The parents who let them cry it out, however, had babies who woke up less. (These parents are known by the other camp as selfish and cold-hearted jerks who shouldn’t have had kids if they didn’t want to take care of them.)
I’ve been everything from a co-sleeping comforter to a Weissbluth devotee. A baby’s cry always means distress to me, but a cranky mom on no sleep wound up being psychologically worse for my older kids than a series of (eventually forgotten, right?) nights where we just let the baby cry. Which makes me wonder, was this study done only on first-time moms? Because in my experience, the more kids you have the less rigid your attitudes are in pregnancy — and, really, life.
Were you a wimpy soother or a cold-hearted CIO-er? Did you think you would be when you were pregnant or are you surprised how soft/hardcore you were? Or are you one of these moms who gets high from your kid’s cry?
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Romanian Mum Gives Birth To A Baby (Gorilla?) | Strollerderby | Babble Australia commented on Sep 02 09 at 10:01 pmManjari commented on Sep 02 09 at 2:47 pmI’m a wimpy soother, and I’ll stay that way. My kids do wake up a lot at night, and I am tired and cranky. Still, I can’t ignore them when they call me at night.
GP commented on Sep 02 09 at 2:52 pmwimpy soother til they’re a little older…like 18 months…then a firm soother who knows sometimes they have to cry for 5 or 10 minutes just to try and convince mom to lay down with them more, but then they realize its bedtime and they need to sleep…if they cry for more than that, then something’s probably wrong and I go to them…
Steph commented on Sep 02 09 at 3:31 pmCan I claim the moderate path? My 6 month old is now happy happily napping for at least 90 minutes twice a day and sleeping at night from 7 to 7. To get her to this point I had to break the breastfeeding to sleep, rocking back to sleep patterns we inadvertently picked up on a month long holiday to my parent’s. It only took several nights to stop the association and during those nights when she cried I sat by her and patted her, just not ever lifting her up out of her cot, but letting her eventually drifting off to sleep on her own.
I absolutely think that we have an easy baby and that makes a big difference. She only cried for maximum 40 minutes and only did that a couple of times. If she found it harder I don’t honestly know how or if I could have persevered… But she seems to thrive on the routine we now have.
But I do believe that as parents we set the expectations, and I do expect my baby to sleep in her bed and for my partner and I to sleep through the night in ours…
That’s what works for us.
Mistress_Scorpio commented on Sep 02 09 at 3:37 pmCall me Wimpamina McWimp Wuss. We’re still co-sleeping even. Parenting FAIL!
Greer's Mum commented on Sep 02 09 at 3:41 pmI did both, soother and then CIOer. I realized she was waking and crying for no other reason than to be sitting in our bed in the middle of the night with the tv on. So I let her cry for awhile and now she sleeps 11 hours a night and only crys when there is something really wrong, like she does not feel well, or she is really wet. Now if her grandmothers were there and I put her down for a nap and she cried, they had to go outside. They could not take it. I think every parent and every kid is different.
GGsmama commented on Sep 02 09 at 3:52 pmAdd me to Team Mistress_Scorpio. I still co-sleep when she calls. Mothering FAIL-arama.
DCMama commented on Sep 02 09 at 5:56 pmOh man. wimpy wimpy. Though my excuse was that the second was waking up the first (yes, across the house, she is LOUD) and causing chaos in the household. Now I have a 2.5 year old who (finally) mostly sleeps through the night and an 11 month old who sleeps in our bed and wakes up every two hours to eat. I can’t wait for her to go to college… but she is darn cute.
Lisa commented on Sep 02 09 at 7:55 pmIt depends on the age and needs of the baby. My oldest child nursed incessently around the clock. We let him cry it out about 9-10 months. My youngest has slept for hours at a time at night since about 2 months. At 6 months, he sleeps 3-4 hours at a time though he’s waking more right now (he’s sick). We’ll let him cry it out in a few months.
ann05 commented on Sep 02 09 at 9:47 pmI dunno. I think the personality of the child might possibly influence how it is parented. The only way I can see of really testing this is giving the same kid to one set of parents and then another, for example, and seeing what happens. Otherwise, it’s all a chicken and egg thing.
Courtney commented on Sep 03 09 at 6:47 amI couldn’t read the article, but I’d be interested in reading the study…how could they tell whether the babies of the parents who comforted weren’t actually fussier? I’ve had friends who went with cry it out because they had kids who would sleep after crying for only a minute or so, and they sort of inadvertently discovered that when they couldn’t get there right away. My son, however, would cry for over an hour if I let him as a baby. Oh, and despite my “wimpiness”, by 12 months he was sleeping 11 hours straight through most nights with a consistent 3 hour nap in the afternoon. So my comforting him couldn’t have done too much harm.
Marj commented on Sep 03 09 at 1:41 pmWell, I guess I’m a wimpy soother, because my boys are only 5 weeks old and I don’t think CIO is effective or useful for newborns.
Veronica commented on Sep 03 09 at 2:25 pmAbsolute, unconditional soother and comforter for the first 6 months or so, complete with many middle of the night nursings, co-sleeping and soothing of every kind necessary.
Then, hard-line CIO’er who insists on instilling good nighttime sleep and nap habits to avoid ending up with a three-year old who still doesn’t sleep through the night. Ferber is a genius. Read his book cover to cover to learn everything you ever wanted to know about human sleep cycles in general (including for adults and older children) and then apply his methods and you’ll wonder why it took you so long to do it his way.
Traci commented on Sep 03 09 at 2:42 pmComments I started “cry it out” at 3 months and she has slept solidly since. She is now 4 1/2 years old and still sleeps 12-13 hours per night. It was hard at first to let her cry but I am so glad we stuck to it. We are all a much less crabby family with all the zzzz’s we get.
ChiLaura commented on Sep 03 09 at 4:12 pmMarj, I’m a CIO-er, but I would never have started that at 5 weeks! Whatever you ultimately choose, you’re dead right that newborns like that need their mama! =)
I’m surprised at all the softies on here. Are there no other CIO-ers, or does no one want to admit it? Both kids hit 15+ pounds around 4-5 months, and a variety of signals showed that they were only waking to nurse at 3 a.m. out of habit. We either soothed them once and then let them cry, or gradually weaned the nursing time period. Our major issue was with my elder son, who at 6 mos would lose his paci a few times a night, be unable to find it, and would just cry, waiting for us to get it for him. It drove us crazy. We let him cry: night 1, 3 hours (ugh!); night 2, 40 min; night 3, 10 minutes, and then he was done. I DO think that we have good sleepers somewhat “naturally,” but I also think that “sleep-training” is an accurate term for what we’ve practiced. I just know that I’d be crazy by now if I were still getting up with my boys (now 3 and almost 2), or if I had to after about 6 months old.
Mandy commented on Sep 03 09 at 6:26 pmI was a cold hearted CIO mommy. To an extent, and if he was obviously hysterical, I would give in and snuggle. :)
He started sleeping 8 hours on his own at 2 months and at about 4 months we started CIO and started sleeping 13 hours a night.
Sue commented on Sep 03 09 at 8:08 pmI am so sorry but I chose happily to leave a flourishing career to stay home because I valued being a parent and wanted to be one full time the most crucial time of my duaghters life…infancy and toddlerhood. NO I DID NOT LET HER CRY IT OUT. I am not privy to any articles and medical knowledge or statistics of what is good for her…I guess i just used my instincts. I heard her cry and I took her in my arms and fed her or just held her until she calmed down and fell asleep. Did I have a rough months even first year DAMN RIGHT I DID! But my thoughts on that are not relevant to what is medically sound to do it was more abut principal. I left work to be a mom and I want going to give it my all no matter what time or day or night it is. If it meant I woke up every two hours for the first 6 months which she did…then I was up with her holding her and consoling her and the first year I did bring her into our bed at night and until she was about three she did have disturbed sleep and I would lay in bed in her room….and she is almost 4 and has been sleeping all night but if she wasnt then I will still be that mom who consoles her daughter. I discipline her when she gets out of line, I teach her what is right and worng but I wont withhold attention or affection for any reason no matter how bad she has been. This is not appropriete in my mind. And I am not alone in thinking that as http://www.truuconfessions.com stands testament to other parents who sae the same thing.
Jo commented on Sep 03 09 at 8:23 pmWhere are all of you wimpy soother mamas???? I need a support group! Everyone I know just doing the CIO without a problem or they have lucked out on a good sleeper. Now that she’s a toddler, I let her fuss a little but definitely not for long. She’s sleeping much better right after her molars. I don’t get it with the CIO technique. Do the kids just suffer alone in the dark when their mouth really hurts?
snarky mama commented on Sep 04 09 at 12:15 amFirst one co-slept for the 1st 2 years. He has pretty much always slept about 12-14 hours a day (nighttime/nap in some combo). Now he’s 7 and sleeps about 10-11 hours a night.
Second one hated co-sleeping during his first year, but loved it during year 2. He was a crappy sleeper until he was 3, whether CIO or co-sleeping. Now he’s almost 5 and sleeps 10-11 hours a night.
The third started out co-sleeping, but we learned he really likes his crib, too. He’s only 16 months now, but started sleeping through the night around 7 months–but only in his crib. He never cries when I put him down. The last 3 months though, he’s been getting molars. I’m lazy and just pull him into my bed if he wakes up in the middle of the night. He sleeps about 14 hours a day, including naps.
My point being, as we all know, different things work for different kids.
Steph commented on Sep 04 09 at 12:28 amSue, please don’t imply CIO or similar approaches are practiced by parents who are less devoted or affectionate with their children… I, too have the good fortune to be a SAHM and I am devoted to my daughter. We just have different ideas about what we are giving our children. I certainly never withheld affection. In my mind I am giving her the independence to rely on herself, and perhaps this little bit of heartache now will mean that she spends less time in the future crying and needing to come into our bed to be soothed – she will hopefully be able to do it herself. As I say in my post above, I haven’t strictly been letting her CIO, as I sit with her and pat her until she is calm, but I don’t pick her up… Anyway, with the combination of personalities in our house this is what is working for us. It doesn’t make me a less devoted or affectionate mother. P.S. I don’t think any parent who practices CIO believes they are withholding affection to “discipline” their child who is being “bad”.
Lisa commented on Sep 04 09 at 1:04 amMy eldest would not achieve REM sleep if she was being touched. She found the contact over stimulating and would cry herself to sleep if held (the process took hours) and would cry herself to sleep if alone in her crib (asleep in less than 10 minutes). We chose the latter starting at about 2 months and she would sleep 8 hours at a stretch.
The second one developed along a similar path.
To other readers who are advocates of soothing and are anti-CIO, you’d probably find more converts to your cause if you STOPPED COMPLAINING ALL THE TIME ABOUT BEING TIRED. If you have chosen to pander to your child’s every whimper and want to be sleep deprived, so be it. But no one thinks it’s very interesting. No one thinks your noble. We think you are BORING.
The only thing MORE boring? Co-sleeping devotees who complain when their 7 and 8 year olds crawl into the former-family bed. You made your King-sized bed now lie in it.
Ferber. Give it two weeks when their 3 months old and stop being DULL.
ChiLaura commented on Sep 04 09 at 9:59 amThank you, Steph. Your comments ring so true.
On a slightly different note, one brought up by Steph’s comment, I kind of wonder: Is there any correlation between being a SAHParent and being a CIO-er, and is there are correlation between working out of the home and co-sleeping? Just curious. I do know a few SAHParents who co-sleep. Personally, though, maybe in part because I am a SAHM, I need my space at the end of the day, as I’ve spent the entire day caring for my kids and am “touched out” and tired. Do parents who work outside the home feel the lack of time with their kids during the day and so are more inclined to co-sleep or respond to their baby’s every cry? I’m quite curious. There may be no relation.
Full Time Parent commented on Sep 06 09 at 2:55 pmyes, this is true, the children who are not comforted at night wake less, because eventually, they realize that their needs aren’t going to be met anyway, so they don’t waste their energy on crying. My son is almost 2 years old, and I run to him EVERY TIME HE CRIES, because that is my job as a parent. Parenting doesn’t end at bedtime, it is 24 hours a day. Get over it, and do your job!
As for people who have 3 month old babies sleeping through the night: Where exactly did you find out that this is supposed to happen??????? Infants do not have the stomach capacity to go all night without eating. Period. They need to eat constantly, even a 3 months, even at 6 months, even at 1 year old. I don’t expect my 2 year old to sleep though the night because I don’t even do that. I have to get up at least twice to get water and use the bathroom. I would never expect my child to not need anything during the night.
I guess I am a super wimpy mother, and damn proud of it! Were still cosleeping, and will be adding another one to the family bed in January!!
Steph commented on Sep 06 09 at 11:18 pmHello Full Time Parent. My baby started sleeping through the night at 8 weeks. She did this, not because I “found out about it” on a website or in a book, but because that’s what she did. I put her to bed at night and we all woke up in the morning. I’m thinking that the cranky co-sleepers on here seem to need a good night’s sleep. (Only the cranky ones – most of you seem lovely). And don’t bother about worrying about the emotional needs of my child – that’s my job. Thanks.
Tony D'Assisi commented on Sep 09 09 at 11:12 amCommentsI truly believe in individuality especially with first-time parents. I know research states this and that but I also know that the baby themselves has a lot to do with whether they are going to be a cryer or not. If they have colic or not, if they are experiencing craniosacral issues or if the parents just are not clued in with regards to their baby’s patterns. Keep up the great posts I am enjoying them.
Amy commented on Sep 09 09 at 3:41 pmIt’s the baby, y’all. My oldest slept for only 3-4 hours at a time, no matter what. Now she still pops up most nights, having bad dreams or having to go potty.
Her brother is 10 months old and sleeps solid from 8pm-7am. If he wakes up and fusses, he’ll get himself back to sleep within 10 minutes, so we let him “cry” it out unless he’s teething.
I’m glad my first one wasn’t as easy, or I’d have been totally self-righteous about getting babies to sleep!
zaksmom commented on Sep 20 09 at 4:11 pmI’m in the wimpy soother camp. I actually get more sleep this way, as it’s easier to roll over and comfort Zak and get back to sleep than listen to him wail while trying to sleep.
La Femme Nikita commented on Dec 02 09 at 8:05 pmOur little man is now eight months old. For the first six months, we would wait five minutes from the first noise to see if it was serious (he’d rev up, and often times would give one cry and then go back to sleep). We still do this now, in that we wait five minutes from the first cry, then go in to check on him to make sure nothing is wrong. We take care of him right away if he has a fever or if he rolled over or something, but if nothing is wrong we let him CIO. If he cries for more than thirty minutes, we nurse or rock him. There have only been a handful of times where he’s cried for more than ten minutes. I think it is wholly dependent on the child and their temperament. We follow this system because it works for our son, and we noticed that he cried in the middle of the night for no real reason we could discern, so letting him work it out on his own (after checking to see nothing was wrong) seemed to make the most sense.
Rachel commented on Nov 16 11 at 12:37 pmDon’t be too hard on yourself soothing moms. I have a 20 month old that i would soothe up until about a week ago. he was still waking every 2-3 hours at 19 months. One night I had rocked him for 2 HOURS and he woke up when I put him down. I had to leave the room while he cried for about 10 min because i was so frustrated and then he ended up crawled out of the crib. That’s when I decided to let him cry it out, but I had to be fully committed. The next day i explained to him what would happen when he went to sleep so he would know what to expect. I followed his normal bedtime routine, but put him down still awake. I let him cry 2 min at first, went in, picked him up and reassured him, then put him back down, even though he started crying when i left and then waited 5 min. and did the same. i waited 10, and then at 15 minutes he fell asleep!!! you do the same for every subsequent waking and naps. he now sleeps 12-13 hours straight and takes a 2 hour nap. I was so sure he would be one of those babies you hear about that cries and cries for hours that i waited far too long. but you never know until you try, just be sure to have a plan and be consistent!!!
Rachel commented on Nov 16 11 at 12:46 pmOh i lowered the crib before i started letting him cry. it’s hard to believe, but sometimes letting them cry is actually more loving (and takes more commitment) than not. My son sleeps better so he his happier during the day and I didnt realize how negatively the lack of sleep was affecting me until the first night i got a good night sleep. it really changes your perspective and attitude about life.
Canuckmom commented on Nov 16 11 at 4:04 pmI can believe the whole “it’s decided before they are born” theory, since all 3 of my children slept 8 hours straight before they were three months. And I didn’t do anything to achieve this. Other than not waking them of course. I never ran to a whimpering child because that would have woken him; letting him stay in his cozy dark room worked much better for him to go back to sleep than barging in on him and scooping him up. However, a friend of mine whose children are close in age to mine, cannot get her 1.5 year old to sleep more than 4 hour stretches. It took her oldest a few years to do that too. And we have very similar parenting styles. So it could just be genetics?
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