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Spanking the Kids: Southern Style
So much for laid back Southern living: a new poll shows parents in the South are more likely to be spank-happy when it comes to discipline.
According to new poll figures: sixty-two percent of folks below the Mason-Dixon Line admit to popping their kids on the backside. So how does that compare to the rest of the country?
Us cranky Yankees, the easygoing Californians and the stiff upper list midwesterners sit around forty-one percent pro-spanking, fifty-nine percent against. Note to children: encourage your parents to move north!
As a New Yorker married to a man who is “Southern born and Southern bred, and when he’s dead he’ll be Southern dead,” the fact that Southerners are spankers didn’t shock me. I heard “if you don’t stop that, I’m going to pop you” or “I’ma swat you on the can,” frequently when I was living down South. And needless to say, my husband was swatted on his own can more than once.
Although, to be fair, I was raised in the North, and neither my brother nor I were spoiled by any lack of the rod.
But one Southern psychologists says it’s that “spare the rod and spoil the child” aspect of the Bible Belt South that makes spanking so popular in the lower half of the nation. In an article in the Tennessean on the poll, Brian P. Hinote, an assistant professor of sociology at Middle Tennessee State University, says “Spanking is viewed as a way of delivering children from hell.”
Maybe I’m taking him too literally, but I haven’t found that most pro-spanking families give two hoots about hell. They just want their kids to sit down and mind their manners. In the end that might keep them out of hell, true, but I’ve found spanking is usually focused on the here and now.
So Southern Babble readers, what say you? Do you spank? Non-Southerners, are you spanking because of the Bible or just to get your kids to listen up?
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Bluster commented on Jul 21 09 at 2:51 pmI spanked my daughters when they were young, but stopped when the youngest was about twelve, because I found myself using my belt to ‘pass out disapline’. When I thought about it, that wasn’t a spanking, that was a beating. And so it is with the proverbial unspared ‘rod’.
Maxo Rally commented on Jul 21 09 at 2:55 pmMy kids have never been spanked but I do have loud voice so a roar from me angry seems to do the trick. I was spanked as child but I never would hit my own children! Matt From Barbados
patricia commented on Jul 21 09 at 3:58 pmI wonder if there is a socio-economic status component to this. I live in the south and have for most of my life, and most of my friends are middle class professionals, like I assume most of the people who post on this site are. No one I know (myself included) spanks their children. Yet I have seen those people Jeanne writes about having overheard when she lived in the south. They often appear to be of lower income, lower education, etc., at least from casual observation.
I was spanked as a kid, but not for Biblical reasons. And I don’t know anyone who was. I wonder if this isn’t just a conflation of a cultural predisposition toward spanking with a cultural predisposition toward overt religiosity by the sociology professor. It’s easy to see southern culture exclusively through the lens of religion if one wants to.
I thought the article was kind of strangely written, with very few poll details. I would love to know whether the poll emphasized belief in spanking as a discipline tool versus the actual practice of spanking. And whether it distinguished between the in-public “You better stop that RIGHT NOW, Missy!” kind of single swat and the “Three licks for X forbidden behavior” kind of spanking.
Anyway, I hate that these kinds of things tend to portray southerners monolithically; like every other population, we have our bright lights and our dim bulbs, and this kind of article tends to make us look a little less illuminated than I think we actually are (if I may push that metaphor a tiny bit too far).
TK commented on Jul 21 09 at 5:52 pmWe are a family who spanks. We are religious. My husband and myself were both spanked as children. We live in Florida. We are not low income. We aren’t upper-class either. We do fairly well. I am a stay at home mom and my husband works full time. We both take part in the discipline of our children, although I obviously do more of it than he does as I am home with them. We don’t believe that we or our children will end up in hell if we don’t spank. We do believe that the Bible says discipline must be instilled in our children. Spare the rod…. Rod could mean many things including spanking. It doesn’t necessarily mean you MUST spank. And I don’t believe every child should be spanked. Some children respond well to spankings. Others don’t. The others may respond well to time-outs or restrictions. There are many forms of discipline and I think each child deserves to receive the best discipline for their situation. Nothing is one size fits all.
Mistress_Scorpio commented on Jul 21 09 at 7:08 pmI don’t spank, but I like your calm, rational comment.
Ali commented on Jul 21 09 at 9:12 pmA southerner would never all their behind a “can” that is a yankee term. Everyone I know spanks or lies and says they dont. Most people in the metropolitan areas of the South are not for the South and they still spank. I would never yell at my kids or call them ugly names but I do spank occasionally. I have a PhD and so does my husband and we are pretty well off so I do not think it is a socioeconomic issue but one of parenting style. We are strict parents.
ksmith247 commented on Jul 21 09 at 9:41 pmI’m a 39 year old southern atheist so religion doesn’t enter the picture but my kids get spanked if they deserve it. My son is now 10 and serious belt spankings are few and far between. I wouldn’t be surprised if he never gets another one. He has turned into a respectful thoughtful child. My 7 year old daughter still gets popped on occasion. Belt spankings are for big offenses like lying or being blatantly disrespectful.
Shana commented on Jul 21 09 at 10:47 pmFor me, I find it hard to fathom the idea of telling children that they should not hit to get something they want and then as a parent to hit a child to get them to behave (something I want).
paci-fist commented on Jul 22 09 at 7:11 amI’m surprised there has not been more of an outcry against spanking here. I have done it. I deeply regret it, and I won’t do it again. I believe it is wrong.
msbeck commented on Jul 22 09 at 2:31 pmImagine the outcry of a husband or wife complained that their spouse refused to listen to them, or maybe called them a name or spent the family monthly savings account for new shoes or some other marital infraction – and the “wronged” spouse decided to whack them with a belt or their hand. Would all you child-spankers out there say that this kind of behavior is ok? In most states this is physical spousal abouse. Why is it that you spankers can hurt a smaller human being but hurting one more your size would land you in jail? Parents who spank make me sick – I’d be thrilled if there was a law against abusing your children in this manner as they do in many countries. Countries (Norway is a good example) that make spanking illegal tend to have a low-crime rate. Ksmith247 even uses a belt on a 7 year old – I hope to God that your children do NOT go to school with mine!
msbeck commented on Jul 22 09 at 2:37 pmSorry about the spelling errors in the above post. I wrote rather quickly. Not that this really matters, but I hail from the North and was raised with kids who did get spanked and those who did not. I’d say the majority of parents we know today do not spank.
Bamemomof2girls commented on Jul 22 09 at 6:14 pmI live in North Alabama and have resided here for the better part of my 35 years. I was spanked as a child and because of that swore I’d never spank my own children. When my now 5-year-old was about 2, I “spatted” her hand and her reaction upset me so much I’ve never done this again. I have to agree with the above poster who said income and education likely play a role in whether parents spank because I know a lot of parents who spank their children and the majority of them barely finished high school and work in low-wage mostly service jobs. It’s sad to say, but I think a lot of them spank their kids because they were spanked and truly have never taken the time to consider a better means of discipline.
Manjari commented on Jul 22 09 at 10:59 pmI agree that spanking a child is the same as hitting an adult in that it’s unacceptable violence. I actually think it’s worse to hit a child – someone smaller than you who depends on you. I can understand that it happens. I’ve swatted my kids when they were doing something very dangerous, but I felt awful about it and plan to never let it happen again.
Alicia commented on Jul 23 09 at 1:22 amMy husband and I both have advanced degrees and we do very well economically. We live in the south. And we are infrequent spankers – not beaters, but spankers. Our kids are healthy and loved. I have to say that the parents who express such outrage at the idea of spanking are the ones whose kids are running around like madmen and constantly interrupting adult conversation. I’m so sick of watching mommies and daddies try to reason and “talk it out” with their 2-year-old who’s just poured sand into my drink for the third time. Just spank the kid, for goodness sake!!!
Shana commented on Jul 23 09 at 10:36 amAlicia, I think you are commenting from a certain point of ignorance. I worked in retail while in college. And generally the really bad kids were the children of the parents more than happy to swat them in the store. My sister and I were “spanked.” Sure I turned out fine for the most part, my sister ended up with a nice coke problem for a couple of years. Then again, I know kids that were never spanked that were terrible also. Whether or not a parents spanks alone is not going to determine whether this kid behaves or not. Some of those talk it out parents you are complaining about may also be the same paretns that are not consistent with discipline and may also relent to their kids’ behavior. That I bet is why those kids are bad, not the lack of spanking. I do not think that parents that spank all hate their children, but in the end, how can you tell children not to hit and then do the same to them? Why is it acceptable to do something to a child that is considered negative to do to an adult?
Alicia commented on Jul 24 09 at 2:36 pmShana, I appreciate your opinion and I’m sorry to hear about your sister. Your experience is anecdotal, however, and I’m speaking generally. Generally, it appears to me that children with parents who do not spank at all are less well-behaved than children with parents who aren’t afraid to discipline. I think it’s ridiculous to try to reason with a 2-year-old for more than 2 minutes. If the kid won’t behave, a swift smack on the butt will usually get his attention. I also used to be a teacher and I can assure you that the kids with “talk it out, I would never smack my sweet little Johnny parents” were the brats.
Bob commented on Jul 26 09 at 12:51 amWhen I was growing up when I did some thing really wrong my father would give me a leather belt strapping with ten hard straps with his big belt folded over across my back side fully clothed but it really hurt-I only got two of those belt strappings from my father when I was growing up-I can only speak for my self I do not have a problem with it-my father really taught me right from wrong with those belt strappings,and I respect my father very much for teaching me right from wrong.
KelseySue commented on Jul 27 09 at 12:05 amMy parents are both from the South and spanking was their sole method of discipline from the time me and my siblings could walk up through even our teen years. We got the hand, wooden spoon, the belt, ad even a big paddle for the really bad stuff. Usually I would be taken to their bedroom and given a lecture. If I had done something really serious, I was told the dreaded, “Please pull your pants down.” The spanking would be bare-bottom and with the paddle for really bad things. Once my pants and underwear were pulled down to my knees, I would lean over the bed and close my eyes. Then all hell would break loose on my poor bottom. By the time I got to my teen years, the spankings were definitely a rare happening in our house!
Vera commented on Sep 05 09 at 1:49 amI was raised by very-well-educated people, in a relatively affluent economic situation, and I was spanked when I was willfully disobedient. Little kids don’t have a lot of ability to understand WHY you shouldn’t pour sand into a drink. Telling then 5 times to stop and why that is “not okay” is not going to work on every kid. I have a very willful child. It is my DUTY to him to civilize him so that other people will like him as well. I don’t beat him, I spank him, and I do it before it hits critical mas and I am furious. I don’t have to do it that often, because when I tell him he is going to be spanked if he continues whatever behavior, he stops. As for the notion that we might be picking on someone smaller or that you shouldn’t do something you wouldn’t let the child do, well, I’d counter that there are plenty of things I can do as an adult that I would not allow my son to do. I am sure you are all smart enough to provide your own examples of such. I see so much of that reasoning and talking it out where I live. It is maddening to try to shop at the grocery store with “that lady” who lets her kids run wild while she feebly says “don’t do that, okaaayyyyy??” I think I am a anomalous these days, but I think I am raising a decent person who will understand how to behave himself both at home and in public.
Vera commented on Sep 05 09 at 1:54 amPS- I failed to address the size matter. Yes, we are bigger than our kids, but we don’t spank them because they are smaller. We do it because they need correction. Size is of no consequence. I don’t go around hitting people who are short just because I can.
PPS- I am from the part of Florida that is still considered the South.
Sadie commented on Sep 30 09 at 8:48 pmSorry, I’m a little late commenting. I’m sixteen years old and had parents from the south, though I live in Nigeria now… my older brothers and I were spanked rather frequently, but only because we were all so naughty. My parents never spanked us for childish mistakes like dropping something or even getting bad tests grades. We were spanked for being blatantly naughty. For example, lying, stealing, talking back, or being lazy, would get us a spanking only because we had a clear choice: do your chores or not, be polite or not, tell the truth or not… none of us grew up violent.
My parents spanked us because they viewed television and toys and such as privledges already, and taking them away wasn’t going to teach us to tell the truth- there is no connection between them.
I think by getting spanked, I learned that my parents were in charge of me and I was to obey them, or I would be turned over a knee. Even as as older child, I never connected the idea that spanking was violent, because my parents would always explain to us that we were being punished for being disobedient.I live in a really religious family, but my parents do not spank me because they’re afraid of hell… they spank me because they see (okay, well I guess saw) it as a better alternative to putting me in a corner or taking away electronics.
PDeverit commented on Oct 22 09 at 4:53 pmChild buttock-battering vs. DISCIPLINE:
Child buttock-battering for the purpose of gaining compliance is nothing more than an inherited bad habit.
Its a good idea for people to take a look at what they are doing, and learn how to DISCIPLINE instead of hit.
I think the reason why television shows like “Supernanny” and “Dr. Phil” are so popular is because that is precisely what many (not all) people are trying to do.
There are several reasons why child bottom-slapping isn’t a good idea. Here are some good, quick reads recommended by professionals:
Plain Talk About Spanking
by Jordan Riak,The Sexual Dangers of Spanking Children
by Tom Johnson,NO VITAL ORGANS THERE, So They Say
by Lesli Taylor M.D. and Adah Maurer Ph.D.Most compelling of all reasons to abandon this worst of all bad habits is the fact that buttock-battering can be unintentional sexual abuse for some children. There is an abundance of educational resources, testimony, documentation, etc available on the subject that can easily be found by doing a little research with the recommended reads-visit http://www.nospank.net.
Just a handful of those helping to raise awareness of why child bottom-slapping isn’t a good idea:
American Academy of Pediatrics,
American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry,
Center For Effective Discipline,
PsycHealth Ltd Behavioral Health Professionals,
Churches’ Network For Non-Violence,
Nobel Peace Prize recipient Archbishop Desmond Tutu,
Parenting In Jesus’ Footsteps,
Global Initiative To End All Corporal Punishment of Children,
United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child.In 26 countries, child corporal punishment is prohibited by law (with more in process). In fact, the US was the only UN member that did not ratify the Convention on the Rights of the Child.
Nora commented on Dec 30 10 at 6:59 pmI was raised in a nice neighborhood in Texas by my dad, a physician, after my mom died. I acted out quite a lot and was spanked on occasions when my disobedience was blatant. My dad wouldn’t spank me for things like bad grades or dropping china. If I swore or lied or backtalked, I’d get spanked. When I was little, maybe under six, it was bare bottom with his hand. When I was older, it would be clothed backside with a belt, usually.
My dad is a Christian, but I wasn’t punished because he thought it would keep me from hell. And always after my punishment, he’d make sure to show my how much he loved me and wanted what was best. I never EVER thought “if he hits me, he must not love me”. Also, my dad NEVER EVER hit my hands, as it discourages creativity in children.
I am 21 now, and most of my friends were spanked growing up. We are all intelligent, respectful, and creative. My older brother lives in Manhattan now with his wife, a native of Manhattan. When they visit her family, my brother is always shocked at how the kids behave. No, they aren’t demons, and they aren’t punching old ladies, but they aren’t obedient to their parents and they backtalk a lot. Obviously this happens lots of places, but I think there are a lot of different perceptions on what “behaving” is.
erin kennedy commented on Oct 14 11 at 10:16 pmHarvard links the obesity epidemic of the south to the cultural practice of spanking. According to Harvard and the AAP, lowers IQ, causes impulse control problems (ahem, the eating? anger? hitting kids?). The demographics which most fill our jails are those with the strictest child -rearing practices. AAP says it fosters juvenile delinquency – which is not to say that all people who have been hit became delinquent but the other way around – all those who are delinquent were likely hit, etc. We may not start out as lower socio economic dwellers but as the viral behavior is handed down, that becomes the result. And in response to a prior post, the South pretty much is a monolithic unenlightened place.
candice commented on Nov 15 11 at 4:45 pmwe are a family who spanks when its needed. i dont hit my kids out of anger that is not a spanking that is hitting. but we do use it as a form of punishment along with time out, privilage restrictions and conversation. sometimes just explaining to him what he is doing is wrong and y its wrong is enuff sometimes is not its child and situation is diffrent
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