Michael Jackson: Pedophile or Attachment Parent?

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Well said!

Sleeping with your own children is very, very different than sleeping with someone else’s children, in my opinion. And, I would *not* be on-board with my daughter sleeping in a bed with friends’ parents, co-sleeping or not. I co-sleep now, to some extent, with my 2 year old, but by the time she is old enough to go to sleepovers, I expect that practice will come to an end. Even so, it’s a different vibe between parents and their own children. Michael’s comments about love and bonding may be earnest and honest, but many pedophiles might have their crimes stems from the same feelings. Acting wrongly on justifiable feelings is still wrong.

Yu’re kidding, right? You would let your son sleep with another kids dad and mom? You know men get erections during the night, right? You know that most kdis are molested by someone they know and trust, right? You need to grow up. Many, many people over the years have spoke out against that man. Many did not ask for a penny or turned him down. They just wanted justice. They did not get it. I cant believe that even now people like you want to let that pedophile off the hook.

If some good friends of mine were taking care of my kids over night and my kids crawled into bed with them for comfort it wouldn’t trouble me in the tiniest degree. But I grew up in a house where we all had to share our beds when the relatives came to visit because there was no such thing as a guest room. Sharing beds with friends and extended family was pretty normal in my house. And we were not “co-sleepers.”

When I watched the Bashir documentary, the thing that jumped out at me when Jackson “teared up” over broken family bonds was that this was coming from someone who intentionally excluded his childrens’ mothers from being a part of their lives.

I don’t know. Is is child abuse to shower with your 2 year old? How about your 10 year old? How about your friend’s 10 year old? There are blurry lines between sexual abuse and some parenting practices, some of which are admittedly cultural. However, it is naive to pretend these lines don’t exist when child abuse is such a common phenomenon. Personally, I wish I could still enjoy MJ’s music, but for me settled out of court doesn’t mean totally innocent. I really wish I felt differently about it, because I miss the music, but listening to his music makes me sad, not happy.

“if i did not trust him with my kids in his bed, i sure as hell wouldn’t have trusted him with my kids down the hall”

What Marta said. Exactly. And I might or might not let my kids sleep over with MJ. Again what Marta said–it would depend on him, not on the sleeping arrangements per se. And I didn’t know him, so I don’t know.

Sorry, I think it is odd and inappropriate for a kid old enough to sleep over at a friend’s to need to sleep with an adult. There is a difference between parents and other adults that I believe is huge. Adults aren’t interchangeable. Perhaps this sense of interchangeability of adults is resulting from the preponderance of daycare babies and the whole “it takes a village” concept. Not for me. Parents are special. Above and beyond just another “trusted” adult.

The Bible says “the wages of sin are death.” I would say MJ’s sins are paid. The Christian thing to do would be to forgive, right? At any rate, I am personally not sure if he was a pedophile or not. I don’t think a child needs to share a bed with anyone other than their parents, to a certain age and then maybe another child.

I haven’t seen this abundance of stories regarding Michaels alleged pedophillia. In fact, it seems to me that the press is making him out to be St. Michael. I would be suspicious of the motives of any grown man who would share his bed with children who are not his own. My son who is 11, often sleeps in my bed, but I can assure you, he would not have slept in Michael Jackson’s. Whether Michael Jackson was a pedophille, I cannot say. However, such things as the constant reshaping of his face, to the false high speaking voice (it had to be an affectation), to naming his home Neverland, indicate a troubled mind. All that, taken in consideration with his proclivity for sleepovers with prepubescent boys makes it seem much more likely to me that he was an abuser than that he was not.

‘Co-sleeping’ is the most disturbing term I’ve seen since ‘Baby’s Momma’(not to mention the worst thing you could do as a parent if you are truly interested in raising a strong, independent human being). Proper Human behavior will not be re-defined by the twisted left liberal. I as a parent I did not whip with a belt, as my father did– but I recently thanked him for doing so cuz I eat all that is put in front of me, treat my woman as a gift and say ‘thankyou’ and ‘please’ when appropriate. I also learned to never back down from anybody that threatens these values.I am also a devout atheist. Amen

Well what do you expect him to say? It’s absolutely expectable that he would defend himself and come up with all that crap about honest love and children in need to be “touched”. I guess most of pedos would tell you that. I am parent and I tell you: NOONE in earth would be alloud to spend a night in same bed with my children except for my wife!!!
I can show love and care to other children in many ways ( give them a nice word, making cookies etc) without sharing a bed with them.

i think micheal was clueless, lonely and wrong about co-sleeping. I however don’t believe he was a pedophile. he was clueless.

I would give you $27 million to sleep with your young son………..

I was and still am a huge fan of Michael Jackson’s music. However, I can distinguish between his musical talents, and his mental health disorders. Michael Jackson suffered from what is known in the mental health world as Major Depressive Disorder. That was his primary disorder. He also suffered from many personality disorders, including: Body Dismirophic disorder, Anorexia Disorder, Gender Identity Disorder, Impluse Disorder, Anxiety Disorder, Somatic Disorder, pain disorder, and of course Pedophila. Michael Jackson settled a court case for over 20 million dolars because of his doccumented relationship with Jordi Chandler-a 14 year old boy. You can go on youtube and watch Michael bouncing the boy on his lap at the music awards. Neverland was all about luring little children over to Michael’s home. I don’t care what anyone says, it’s not okay from a grown man to sleep with little children. You can watch any number of doccumentaries on Jackson’s explotation of children: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LA3BlG8Xxaw

ok all of yall need to listen to yourself. Michael Jackson was a good man. But any parent with common sense wouldnot let there child sleepover any GROWN MAN house. They are the ignorant folks. I no if my child would come up to me and say they are sleeping over Prince house I would tell them no cus he is a grown man!!

And these books had pictures of naked boys

I’ve heard it is not a good thing to speak bad of the dead. That might be why some media do what they do. One thing that annoys me is that there is mental aspect, the psychology of Michael Jackson, that is not being explored. He was a man that grew up performing and spent his school years being taught by tutors. This “weird” fascination with children and youth has to do with a lost childhood and maybe the forced into sexual roles (i.e. heartthrob, having is masculinity questioned) when he was ready to play or become them. Nostalgia for a life that never was, one that he could then create with Neverland Ranch.

Children that he was probably around the most were his siblings, performers as well. I think he is socially stunted. As an adult he lived in his own world where he made is own rules, he’s less likely to understand or take the advice of those around him. He just doesn’t get it, he smart but when it comes to societal rules he doesn’t get it. He saw himself as a kid, those children around him saw that also, they felt comfortable with him because they seemed equal. It’s easy to conclude pedophilia also, but his logic is working against him. Children are innocent, but as they age into adulthood the characteristic innocence is dropped. The bed is seen as a place where sleep AND sex occur. Some people would conclude that children are not allowed in this place when adults are present. Sex and innocence cannot coexist.

I am at odds with this possible dual personality. I’ve dealt with similar problems (non of which have anything to do with pedophilia) as Michael. It’s hard seeing someone you identify with in a negative way, but I think some of the concepts I’ve discussed should definitely be explored. I would fairly say that him being a pedophile is not concrete label for him. We just see the surface, something is underneath and it may be a different kind of dark, something that could easily not be pedophilia.

I read that when Michael was a child, because his father was so unloving and his work load so copious, that the only comfort he felt was when he and his brothers would play and bunk together in their hotel rooms when they were on the road - that to him was normal. He was apparently very depressed as a little boy, according to what people have said about him, and that little spark of love and comfort that got from being together with his siblings was more important than anything in the world.

I recently was so tired of hearing people coming up with contradictory quotes about his 2005 trial that I read the complete transcripts over the weekend (with evidence list) and find that what most people believe to be fact is not correct. He actually was in possession of regular old penthouse and other girlie mags (not naked kid photos) or other things that people say. In fact, the evidence against MJ was so poor it’s hard to understand why the case was brought to court at all other than over zealous prosecuting. I think all will become clear as far the accusers are concerned in the next few years.

And I have first hand knowledge that he actually dated women quite a bit back in the 1980’s, visited the Playboy Mansion on occasion, was a guest quite often of the playboy hotel in Miami - there is video to prove it.

Beautiful blog. Michael has been portrayed so unfairly. Michael is right about children and parents not eating together and about love and affection. I think parents spend too much time working to buy things instead of spending time with their children. I, too, think the comments expressing joy at his passing are disgusting. Why do people still feel the need to berate someone who has gone?

Thank you.

Good point! Since Michael Jackson’s death, I’ve tried to really look into the facts of the cases filed against him, and the more I look into them, the more it seems that he was a victim of 1) people who wanted to cash in on him, for the most part, and 2) members of the media, who either deliberately omitted details that pointed to his innocence, or were lazy and assumed things without doing their homework. Today I found a site that talks about both cases. It is definitely pro-Jackson, but if people go through it objectively & with an open mind, they will at least see another side to the story. One page is particularly interesting as it separates the facts of the 1993 case from what the majority of us believe we know about it. Here is the URL in case anyone is interested: http://mjjr.net/content/mjcase/settlement.html

All you ignorant fools should actually research the cases before passing judgment or else say you don’t know if he’s guilty or not because you don’t know the evidence. There is no evidence that Michael Jackson ever molested anyone other than the words of proven and admitted liars who couldn’t keep their lies straight under oath. If they had evidence in 1993, Sneddon would have arrested Michael Jackson and charged him with child molestation, instead the police investigation went on for more than a year and no charges were ever brought. Jackson was found not guilty in 2005 because he was NOT GUILTY. The prosecution presented NO evidence to support Gavin Arvizo’s claims that Michael Jackson molested him. Instead all the evidence, even the prosecution’s ‘evidence’ pointed to the fact that Gavin and his family were a bunch con-artists trying to pull the biggest con of their careers with the help of the mainstream media. People like to claim Michael Jackson was a pedophile based on these idiotic lines of reasoning.
1. “He’s spends time with kids instead of women, therefore he is a child molester”. If so how come all the kids he spends time with aren’t accusing him? How come all the victims that exist in your imaginations never come forward with allegations. He’s had thousands of kids at Neverland over the years, and only three accusers, all whose parents happen to be con-artists chasing after money.
2. “He paid them off so he’s guilty.” Do you know the difference between a civil case and criminal case. WTF is something as serious as child molestation doing in civil court instead of criminal court. If you think someone molested your kid you go straight to the cops, you don’t call your lawyer and file a lawsuit and then refuse to cooperate with the police once you get a settlement. Explain to me where in the settlement http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0616041jacko1.html does it say the money is contingent upon the accusers failure to cooperate with the police. It was the Chandler’s decision and theirs alone to run after taking the money. If you bother to read it (I know its to difficult for idiots) you’d notice MJ claimed he’s innocent in the settlement and accuser and his lawyers agreed to sign it. By this idiotic logic, Janet Arvizo and her children were telling the truth when they claimed that a JC Penny’s security guard beat and sexually abused her because JC Penny settled with her for more than 100,000. Please.
3. “He had money so he beat the rap.” Martha Stewart, Paris Hilton, Chris Brown, Madoff, etc. I guess did not have enough money to beat the rap. Michael Jackson’s trial was one of the most expensive trial in U.S. History. It cost taxpayers 2.7 million dollars. http://news.softpedia.com/news/Michael-Jackson-s-Trial-Costs-2-7-million-5327.shtml Sneddon had been chasing after Michael Jackson for 12 years and he still could not find any evidence or credible witnesses, despite ransacking Neverland twice with 70 police officers, setting up a hotline for alleged victims to come forward, and traveling around the world looking for victims.
4. “OJ Simpson got away with it, so Michael Jackson got away with it too.” People who think OJ is guilty can point to evidence, something that MJ haters have a hard time doing. By that same logic, Charles Manson is also innocent because some people are wrongfully convicted. Therefore, we should release all convicted criminals from prison.
5. “He sleeps with boys.” This is not illegal. If you want to use this as proof of his guilt, then at a minimum the boys he’s sleeping with have to be the ones accusing him, NOT you. This didn‘t happen in the Michael Jackson case, contrary to popular belief. Gavin Arvizo the boy accusing him in 2005 never slept in bed with Michael Jackson, according to the Martin Bashir interview and witnesses at the trial. He slept in the guest room with his family. Macaulay Culkin, Wade Robson, and Bert Lewis, all testified they slept with Jackson in the early 90s and nothing happened. Do you know better than them what happened to them? Jordie Chandler (the boy got the settlement in the early 90s) skipped the country so he wouldn’t have to testify in the 2005 case. Gee, I wonder why?
6. “There was ‘lurid’ testimony. ‘Little boys never lie’. When a child speaks we should believe them…” I can give lurid testimony about you too. I wonder if that makes it true. Here’s one of my favorites from you tube. On the witch hunt for victims Diane Diamond comes across a boy who could give ‘lurid testimony’ that Michael Jackson molested him and details of his time at Neverland. She believed him and wasted months trying to corroborate his story and even gets the police involved. Turned out this kids a liar who’d never even met Michael Jackson. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3GbPkR-ne4

I can’t believe that some people actually think it’s okay for children to sleep in the same bed as non-relative adults! I have ALWAYS allowed my OWN kids to sleep in the bed with me when they wished to, but no WAY would I feel comfortable with a strange kid in my bed or my kid in another adult’s bed! It’s not just a question of potential sexual molestation (although this is the most serious aspect) but also just the fact of it being unseemly, even unhygienic! Adults have sex in their beds, fart in their beds, etc (sorry to be graphic, but it’s true!) and it’s one thing to share these germs with your own kin, but with strangers?? I simply can not IMAGINE my husband, in his boxer shorts, settling down for bed at night with the 6 year-old daughter of the next door neighbour in his bed! Not only would it repulse him for personal reasons, but I’m sure he would be terrified, as any sane man would be, of the potential accusations that could be thrown his way as a result! Furthermore, I would be a nervous WRECK if I thought my kids were curling up in bed at night with some other kid’s parents, especially someone’s father! I KNOW I don’t molest children, but how can I be sure about anyone else? One poster said that if you don’t trust your kid to sleep over in the same bed with the adults at someone’s house, then how can you trust them sleeping down the hall? Well, my answer to that is simply that if a child is down the hall, an adult, if in fact they are a predator, has to at least risk waking up the other residents of the house in order to get to your child, whereas, if they are already in BED with your child, they can molest them without waking anyone up - even the victim! Furthermore, as someone else pointed out, men develop erections during the night, so would you really want to risk your child rubbing up against some strange guy’s erection, even if his intention WASN’T to molest them? Frankly, the whole thing is RIDICULOUS! There is an enormous difference between adults sleeping with their own offspring and sleeping with the children of strangers, and anyone who can’t see this is living in ga-ga land! As to Michael Jackson - same rules apply to him. If he wanted to sleep with/comfort his own children at night that’s fine, but with a huge ranch packed with amenities and guest-rooms, there’s really no reason on earth why he needed to share his bed with other people’s children!

People need to do their research before calling MJ a paedophile. People are so ignorant. He was innocent and the victim of two greedy families who craved fame and fortune and were too lazy to work for a living. As above read redemption by geraldine hughes, read conspiracy by aphrodite jones and mary fischer article for GQ magazine for a start. I hope none of the haters on here get accused of such crimes.

ITS A DISGRACE MICHAEL IS TOTALLY INNOCENT HOW MANY TIMES DOES IT HAVE TO PROVED LEAVE HIM ALONE IT WAS ALL ABOUT MONEY AND DESTROYONG MICHAEL IT DID NOT WORK AND HATERS NEED TO LOOK AT THEMSELVES AND ASK WHAT GOOD HAVE THEY DONE FOR THIS WORLD MICHAEL GAVE EVERYTHING

WTF DID YOU KNOW HIM PERSONALY HE DIDNT DO ANYTHINK GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT THEY WHERE FALSE ALLEGATIONS HE WAS FOUND INNOCENT BECOUSE HE WAS INNOCENT THEY JUST ALL WANTED MONEY THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL AND MAKES PPLS LIFES DESTROYED AS MJS WAS BY THIS FILTH ALL LIES HE IS A KIND CARING LOVING SWEET MAN WHO CARED FOR EVERYBODY HE NEVER USED HATE AS A WEAPON HE WAS RESPECTFULL NOT LIKE THE MEDIA AND YOU SO CALLED FANS MICHAEL I L.O.V.E. YOU MOST YOUR REAL FANS ALWAYS KNEW YOU WHERE INNOCENT YOU ARE THE KING OF KIND

you people are so ignorant dont believe everythink you read michael is and always was innocent he never judged people you are as bad AS the media stop trippin on michael give him a break michael your the bomb L.OV.E. U MOSTEST