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Pregnant Man Gives Birth Again
ABC News is reporting that Thomas Beatie, the transgendered individual who gave birth to a child a year ago, has done so again.
ABC says that Beatie had a boy and that it was “natural childbirth” (they put it in quotes, not me). Beatie’s wife Nancy will breastfeed.
Beatie is better known as “the pregnant man,” which isn’t quite accurate as far as I can tell. It does, however, make for a better headline.
Here’s a video in case you’ve forgotten about this:
This story brings up a whole host of gender identity issues, none of which I feel qualified to talk about intelligently. (If you’re interested, Shannon and I discussed the issue a bit on this episode of Babble Talk Radio. By “discussed” I mean that Shannon talked and I listened. It’s a big topic that we want to revisit another time.) One thing I haven’t heard discussed is whether or not it’s a great idea for someone who has had so many hormones pumped into their body to be giving birth. It seems like there would be some risk involved, more so than usual.
I know it’s a loaded question but is anyone bothered by the Beatie birthing bonanza? (Any excuse for alliteration.) Or maybe you think it’s great that someone is able to have kids in a non-traditional way? (Is it non-traditional? I don’t know the answer to that.) Or does this news barely make a blip on your personal radar?
Source: ABC News
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[...] the only thing left exclusively for women is the child-bearing (maybe not, Thomas Beattie) and breastfeeding. Though on the latter? I’m sure some selfish dude’s going to come a [...]
Dads: The New Moms | Strollerderby commented on Jun 20 09 at 3:58 pmMandy commented on Jun 10 09 at 3:43 amMy understanding is that Thomas stopped taking testosterone before getting pregnant. At first I thought it was a little odd they were having another child so soon, but if he had to stop taking the testosterone for each pregnancy and they wanted two children (or more, they may not be done having kids) it would make sense to have the kids close together. I wouldn’t be surprised if he has not taken any testosterone since before getting pregnant with their first child.
johanna commented on Jun 10 09 at 1:41 pmCongrats to the Beatie family again! If you read Thomas’ memoir, “Labor of Love,” he describes the steps he took to ensure a healthy pregnancy and delivery of his daughter, Juliet. I think it’s a big deal media wise just because we haven’t seen this before in the US.
Brit commented on Jun 10 09 at 2:09 pm“Beatie is better known as “the pregnant man,” which isn’t quite accurate as far as I can tell. It does, however, make for a better headline.”
To call Thomas Beatie a man IS accurate. He identifies as male. Just because he has not had full gender reassignment surgery does not mean he is female. Mr. Beatie, like many transmen, has had what is referred to as “top” surgery (chest surgery), but not “bottom” surgery because the latter is incredibly expensive, and the results, as the surgery exists today, are not ideal (though many transmen do have the surgery and are happy with it).As for the hormone question, the amount of testosterone that transmen take would not allow for the possibility of a healthy pregnancy, carried to term. Mr. Beatie has to have stopped the testosterone, or his pregnancies would not have made it full-term. A previous commenter pointed out that he explains the process in his book, which I haven’t read – I’m just going based on my own knowledge of transmen and pregnancy (Mr. Beatie is by no means the first or the only transman to become pregnant and give birth).
As a lesbian planning to get pregnant using donor sperm and artificial insemination, I am pretty open-minded about the different ways to create a family. What the Beatie family chose to do is not good or bad, it is just different. It is what worked for them. They obviously wanted children very much, and I’m sure their children will be loved and cared for. I think it’s a little odd that they seemed to head towards the spotlight so willingly, but if their story opened people’s eyes to the reality of transpeople parenting in a positive light, then that is a good thing.
lea commented on Jun 10 09 at 3:09 pm“He” is actual a woman. Just because woman can cut her hair short and grow beard and dress up like a man doesn’t make her an actual man. Come on media, study your grade 5 biology
TolaniLucia commented on Jun 10 09 at 4:07 pmNot a man. Men don’t give birth.
Ali commented on Jun 10 09 at 5:54 pmNot a man, a woman. A man produces sperm, has testes. A woman has ovaries, a uterus, XX chromosomes. Not a man, stop calling her one.
Twyla commented on Jun 12 09 at 12:30 amSo if I can find a loophole in the system to identify myself as a cheetah and I can run really fast, am I a cheetah? This story is ridiculous. Calling a woman a man is ridiculous. A man did not and can not give birth. Woman can. End of stupid, time-wasting story.
Marj commented on Jun 15 09 at 3:24 amI dunno – if you still have a functioning uterus, you might gender identify as male, but your body is still female. I have a good friend who had gender reassignment, so I don’t really have a problem with that. But the headlines “Man Gives Birth” is more sci-fi than the real explanation.
Brett Singer commented on Jun 17 09 at 12:15 am@Brit, re: “To call Thomas Beatie a man IS accurate. He identifies as male.”
Can someone just decide to identify as a different gender, and that’s that? I know this is a larger topic, but I have to admit that I don’t really understand how that works.
Lmcnmygj commented on Jun 22 09 at 4:17 amkb41ok comment2 ,
mature commented on Oct 09 09 at 1:03 amComments
Okay! I am just sick now, is the world just gone damn crazy? People this Beattie person is not a man. He/She has a cooch and a uterus, ovaries, she bleed every month just like me. And she is walking around looking like a man, that’s just nasty. last I checked only a woman has that stuff. What the hell! I want to be a man but I still want to have kids WTF? So what she got her titties cut off (harsh) I’ts bad enough having to do it cause you have cancer but to choose to do it is just insane. She shaved her head and wears a beard. She is still a woman trying to look like a man. I feel sorry for these children that she is giving birth to, how in the world do you expect a person that is freaking confused to raise a child without confusing them as well. How in the world can they be well adjusted if your ass isn’t well adjusted. And DFACS have not stepped in? Somehow this crap is news worthy. Put her ass in the circus already!
mature commented on Oct 09 09 at 1:05 amComments
And stop calling her a damn he!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why is this crazy heffer getting news coverage, UGH!!
Mardi commented on Nov 06 09 at 11:15 amIf dude don’t wanna be female, why the hell is he having a baby? Pick a side. And how the hell is his woman able to breastfeed? Women really do just wanna have it all…
skelly commented on Aug 07 11 at 9:29 pmThese comments are revolting. There’s a difference between sex and gender. Gender is between your ears, sex is between your legs. At the moment there is no affordable female to male reassignment for the lower half, not to mention a functioning option, so this is as good as it gets for most transmen. Tell me ladies, when you close your eyes does your sense of being female disappear? Obviously it must, since you define being a man or a woman by being able to observe genitalia. As for the criticism of his wife (and yes, they are considered man and wife in a heterosexual marriage by both the state and us rational folks) she lost her uterus to a hysterectomy for health reasons. So congratulations, you’ve managed to spew hatred over a couple (who shouldn’t even be triggering this rash of homophobia, as they are a straight couple. At best a pansexual couple.) who made a decision to go through with a pregnancy, despite the implications it would have on the psyche of a transman for the benefit of building a loving family despite the wife’s infertility. These children are blessed to have such devoted and strong parents. And by the sounds of it, I’d kill for a husband willing to go through all the trouble he must have went through for the love of their kids.
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