Would You Marry When Kids Told You To?
My perma-crush on actor dad Johnny Depp just suffered a big blow. In a run down of Hollywood couples who are happily unmarried (most of them parents), The Frisky quotes Captain Jack Sparrow himself saying he’ll marry long-time love and mother of his kids Vanessa Paradis “if the kids want us to.”
Sweet? I guess, but what’s the point?
If you’re not getting married because you don’t think it’s necessary to have that piece of paper, doesn’t it hold that you’d feel the same way as the kids age?
I do happen to be one of those smug marrieds who was five years into this here wedded bliss by the time pregnancy came into the picture, so I confess I’m totally mystified by this one. Not by people who don’t get married - different strokes for different folks and all that. But by folks who let their kids dictate whether or not they’re married.
What is every so-called “shotgun” wedding? Not a meeting of the minds or a union dictated by love (even if you were engaged, it wasn’t you making the choice to speed things up), but by the kid-to-be. Ditto swearing off on marriage only to flip flop when your kids say “hey, when are you two crazy kids getting hitched.”
What does that tell your kids? Marriage may not seem like a big choice after you’ve been together a decade and have two kids to show for it, but if it isn’t - why haven’t you done it before?
I’m all for people skipping the certificate if that’s their thing (again, my marriage is my personal choice here), but if you’re doing it for a REASON, then don’t you want to show your kids you stand up for your beliefs? If marriage doesn’t mean that much to you, how about setting an example to your kids. When they ask, lay it out there: “no, Mommy and Daddy don’t need a piece of paper” or “no, Mommy and Daddy don’t think it’s fair to marry until California gets off its high horse and lets Adam and Steve do it too.”
Whatever your reason for not getting married, it’s your choice folks. Just as you’d hope your kids make their own choices some day.
Image/Source: The Frisky
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Blog Article and Video about Would You Marry When Kids Told You To? | Strollerderby - Johnny Depp commented on Jun 07 09 at 4:25 pmShana commented on Jun 07 09 at 10:29 pmI actually worked with a girl, during college, that was still pretty upset about her parents never marrying. And she was well into her twenties. There is nothing wrong with marrying each other for the kids if you are in fact in love with each other and intend on spending the rest of your lives together. Who does it hurt? And it is quite different from kids dictating a lot of things to you. And this girl I worked with, her being upset about her parents not marrying had nothing to do with being worried about what people thought about her, but more to do with her wanting her parents to prove that they definitely intended to stay together. Because let’s face it, divorce is a rough thing.
Sara commented on Jun 07 09 at 10:41 pmThis makes sense to me. It’s one thing to feel AGAINST marriage (in which case, I don’t think you should do it for your kids), and another thing to feel indifferent to marriage (in which case it makes sense to do it if it’s important to someone that you love).
Jenny commented on Jun 08 09 at 1:16 amHAHAH has the man got no balls? Letting his kids say when he’ll marry and who he’ll marry? Seriously?
km commented on Jun 08 09 at 12:10 pmThe father of my 3 children and I are not married, and have been happily unmarried for the past 9 years. There is no definitive reason we are unmarried, it just all boils down to us not really caring one way or another. (Although it is kind of fun to watch our parents squirm when explaining to their friends that no, we are still living in sin.)
Our little joke (which any Kiss fans out there may appreciate) is that we’ll get married the day after Gene Simmons does. (For you non-Kiss fans, Gene and his girlfriend have 2 children and have not been married for almost 25 years.)
That being said, if one of my children came to me and was really adamant about his father and I being married, I would do it.
Voice of Reason commented on Jun 08 09 at 11:45 pmSara’s comment rings true for me personally. My partner and I met sixteen years ago and have lived together for thirteen years. We have two children, aged five and two, and a dog. We’re about as committed as a couple can be (and happily so) and get this: we don’t consider ourselves to be unmarried. We simply haven’t had a wedding. We’re not opposed to marriage; we just don’t believe a wedding makes a marriage. Someday, it’s possible that we might change our minds and decide a ceremony is important to us, after all, and who knows what could trigger such a decision – perhaps conversations with our children? I doubt it, but it wouldn’t be a betrayal of our convictions if we did change our minds. In our hearts, we are as married as any happy couple you could name.
Marj commented on Jun 09 09 at 1:50 pmIt sounds like to Depp and his partner, marriage itself doesn’t matter one way or the other, so if they discovered it did matter to their kids, they would oblige them. The attitude seem in sync with a total indifference to the idea of marriage. I never thought he was rebelling against it - he’s too cool for that
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voiceofreason commented on Jun 26 09 at 2:11 pmI think the adults need to stop sounding like children. Honestly folks, how does a piece of paper and a party make it any “better”. Sure if you believe in GOD you may have different reasons for matrimony, but even so…a relationship with GOD should be personal and NOT a circus or media circus in Depp’s case. Marriage is a state of committment of heart and mind to each other and to (your) God…and, it’s that promise that keeps couples together, not the ceremony. Sure there’s the matter of accoutnability, but let’s be real, who has ever come knocking on your door when you were treating a boyfrind, girlfriend, fiance, or husband/wife badly, or cheating on him or her. Basically nobody and the choices you likely made you made on your own. These two are married and more successfully than most stars or people who went through the ritual which in the end didn’t amount to a hill of baked beans. And, hopefully they will teach their lovely children that love is more than some fancy dress and party and a meaningless parchel of parchment.
me o my commented on Aug 09 09 at 5:48 pmRefreshing to hear about the case against marriage from others. My husband and I recently got married ONLY because of immigration reasons. I was happy to call him my boyfriend and live in “sin” forever, (we have a nearly 2 year old girl) but the conservatives of the US government just can’t get with the program of other 1st world countries and recognize that just because you’re not “married” doesn’t mean that you’re not committed. Both of us despise the antique institution of marriage and by signing a piece of paper it doesn’t mean anything more or less to our relationship. I actually feel sorry for those women who spend months and thousands of $$$ planning some fairytale wedding. What a waste. Put it towards a house, a car, a college education. Some bouffant cake and a dress costing more than rent doesn’t make a marriage last. Depp, Pitt & Jolie are awesome forward thinkers in so many more ways than most of married Hollywood.
2cute4u commented on Aug 24 09 at 9:20 pmComments
Marriage is not summed up by a beautiful white dress, a huge amounts of flowers, an amazing ceremony , and a massively expensive reception afterwards. All that is nothing in the eyes of God. What marriage is is the vows that are exchanged between eachother before God. Marriage is a promise of lifelong commitment. You can say all you want about not being married, yet being more married all you want. Bottom line your not married until you made that vow to eachother before God or anyother gods or goddesses if you believe different. Now I know couples who live together and are not married and are happy because they are not committed to one another. And they choose to live that way and that’s great; however, I also know some couples that have lived together for a long time, share children and are very miserible because they are not together because they truly love one another but for the children’s sake. They don’t want to make a vow that they don’t mean to make yet they can’t just break up because they feel the kids would be cheated out having a whole family. And it’s the same with marriages that are failing, they stay because of the kids. It’s very sad that there are those who tend to think that kids somehow make a marriage, when in fact, kids have nothing to do with the vows exchanged and maintained throughout the marriage. Marriage is a contract between the participating couple. Which brings it down to the very point of the matter, kids should not have a right to choose when their parents should get married, that’s for the parents to choose for themselves. But perhaps we are missing the real reason why Mr. Depp is choosing to answer the question the way he chose to answer it. I don’t think Mr. Depp would actually put that burden on his children. What I think what he is really saying is that he doesn’t want to marry Ms. Paradis. It just sounds really cute when puts the question off on the whem of Ms.Paradis or his children. Which I’m sure he feels really confident in the fact that somehow that’s just not going to happen. Maybe that’s because they have an arangement of sorts, maybe not. Who knows?
2cute4u commented on Aug 25 09 at 5:44 pmComments
I would also like to state that marriage is also a contract. The vows that you make to eachother are contracted for legal reasons, as well as ethical and moral reasons. No, marriage isn’t just a piece of paper but that piece of paper comes really handy when you need some legal backing. It also serves as a reminder that indeed the event did take place, just incase one forgets. Another symbol is the wedding band, a symbol of promise, another reminder that you are to be faithful. Not that one should need these things to remind them, but they do come in handy when one tends to forget. But then again, maybe one doesn’t want all that stuff so they can forget.







