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I am Skipping Addison’s Flu Shot

Posted by danielle625 on October 6th, 2011 at 11:30 am
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What are you doing?

It is that time of year again!   Flu shots … joy!   With notes going home from my oldest son’s school, to automated phone calls from our insurance company … and of course, those Flu shots here today! signs all over town — how could I avoid them?

It is no news that Addie isn’t our first child, and as a matter of fact, our oldest son was born in the winter.  A December baby who never got a flu shot. Heck, I don’t think I’ve ever gotten one either, pregnant or not. 

I guess I never saw the point. I know that many parents swear by them because they can be beneficial to their children, especially if they are immunocompromised at all. I understand that. But as the mother of three healthy children, all of which have skipped the flu shot, and never really ended up with the flu, I plan on skipping it once again.

In the past we have had stomach bugs, nothing that has lasted very long, maybe two days at the longest, but nothing I would really classify as the flu.

Heck, I even got a bug when I was pregnant with Addison.  Both of my boys passed it back and forth between them, and lucky for me and my husband, we both ended up with it.  I guess it is just part of life and parenting, right?

After lots of reading, it seems like there are a lot of simple ways to keep the flu out of your house, most being easy like washing your hands, or staying home if you are sick. Both are very basic common sense ways to avoid getting sick during the cold and flu season, right?

So parents … what are you going to do?
Planning on getting the flu shot for your little one?   Or are you doing to skip it, too?

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 I am Skipping Addisons Flu Shot

34 Comments

My 15 month old will be getting the flu shot. He got one last year too. There is no good reason not too, in my opinion.

Amanda commented on Oct 06 11 at 12:31 pm

Stomach bugs have nothing to do with influenza, even though we colloquially refer to them as ‘the stomach flu’. The ‘flu’ shot is for influenza, not any other illness. Some kids vomit when they have influenza but that’s not the main symptom. The primary symptoms of influenza are fever, headache, fatigue, body aches/muscle pain, dry cough, and sore throat. It’s basically much more like the worst cold you ever had, x 10, than it is like a stomach virus. I have gotten the flu shot every year since having kids, even though I’m fairly healthy and probably would ultimately be fine if I got influenza, because the prospect of having to take care of sick children while also feeling the symptoms myself is way, way worse than a quick trip to the doctor and a needle stick.

Diera commented on Oct 06 11 at 12:38 pm

Oh, and of course I get it for my kids too. Again, now that they’re both out of infancy it probably wouldn’t kill them (although it does kill healthy children every year) but it’s really pretty miserable. Ounce of prevention and all that.

Diera commented on Oct 06 11 at 12:40 pm

I never get the flu shot, nor does my 4year old, and the baby wont either. I have never had the flu, and we tend to not go out much in the winter either. I personally see no point in getting the shot for the girls. Maybe when My 4 year old starts to attend school and all the germs that go with that, then maybe we will do the flu shot.

Jessica commented on Oct 06 11 at 12:45 pm

The adults in our house are getting it, but not our son. He’s 8 months old, and, well, he’s just not getting it.

Kate commented on Oct 06 11 at 12:47 pm

Diera, ‘flu can cause vomiting, diarrhea, and other GI problems in children – I was hospitalized for dehydration related to ‘flu 3 time when I was young. After an exhaustive search that last time, they determined it was “just the flu” that caused the vomiting and fever that led me to need an IV for a full week.
I got my flu shot this year (I’m pregnant) and plan to have our kids get it every year it’s offered. Influenza can at best make a child severely ill, and at worst can cause death – it’s not something to take lightly. My mother was a definite proponent of hand-washing, keeping your face away from sick people, not sharing other kids’ drinks, etc., and I was as good as possible about doing all of those things, so even preventative measures like those aren’t enough sometimes.

kiki commented on Oct 06 11 at 1:00 pm

I’ve never gotten one, and I’ve only ever gotten the flu once. Ditto for my husband. Since we don’t really think they’re necessary, the only one of our children that is getting one is our four year old, simply because it is required for him to attend preschool.

grace commented on Oct 06 11 at 1:00 pm

I immunize because what you call a “bug” can become much more than that for other people, and our children remain carriers for some time after the symptoms cease.

I have a ladyfriend with CLL, avoiding flu is life and death for her. How many children of people who think they’re magically immune to it does she run into in a day? Or, as you need to think with disease, how many people that have run into those people? And so on and so forth.

This recent counterculture against immunizations is baffling given their well documented successes and social benefits. You don’t just immunize for yourself, you immunize for everyone around you because nobody can guarantee against becoming a host.

I don’t really understand why you wouldn’t unless you can’t afford it. I take every precaution to drive safe and have never been in an accident, but that doesn’t mean I have a good reason to leave the kids’ seatbelts off. As a general rule I avoid puncture wounds made by rusty objects but it remains reasonable to have your tetanus shots.

During all of your pregnancies you were at decreased risk of birth defects and miscarriage from congenital rubella because use of the MMR vaccine became widespread. Rubella in itself’s pretty harmless for most of us, as are measels and mumps; but people did you a favor in the 70′s and 80′s and actually made the first world a slightly safer place by not reasoning as you are now.

Brinley Kimball commented on Oct 06 11 at 1:11 pm

We get the flu shot, although not my kids under two in the past. This year I am talking to my pediatrician about it. My youngest is 8 months but in and out of hospital appointments for a kidney defect.

We get the shot to help protect our community. Although death rates from influenza have dropped as vaccines have improved (they still have to pick the strains each year as it mutates so prolifically and some years are better than others) influenza remains a leading cause of death in Canada. It also really impacts on people with asthma, etc. We are active members of our community which includes seniors, who are especially vulnerable. Also, a real flu easily takes out 5-7 sick days and my husband and I need those for dr appointments, etc.

JennG commented on Oct 06 11 at 1:30 pm

Yes, the stomach flu is not the same as influenza. The stomach flu is unpleasant for 24-48 hours, and may send you to the hospital for dehydration if it’s particularly serious. Influenza can kill you in under 72 hours. During the 2010-2011 influenza season, the flu killed 116 children. This is down from the previous year when the flu killed 282 children in the USA. (per the CDC)

In a 2008 study of children who died from flu, only 6% of kids who were recommended to get the flu vaccine had in fact been vaccinated. (Source: Pediatrics) However, clearly some who were vaccinated still died. The vaccine is sadly far from perfect. But it is a useful weapon to have in one’s arsenal (in addition to handwashing and vitamin D supplements). So yes, everyone in my household has had the vaccine.

Joanna commented on Oct 06 11 at 1:33 pm

After working in ICU and seeing previously healthy 20-year olds dying of influenza I will get the vaccine, my 3-year old will get it, my husband will get it (even though he is phobic of needles), and when the baby is 6-months old, he will get it too. The vaccine is very safe, and has been shown to do very well at reducing hospitalizations and serious complications from the flu (though fairly rare in healthy people), and significantly reduces sick time in adults (before it was covered by health care, my large employer paid to have nurses come in as paying for flu shots reduced their cost of sick time). Besides, staying home when you’re sick only helps other people, not my family, and we know that not everyone stays home when they should.

Cheryl commented on Oct 06 11 at 1:40 pm

I actually had H1N1 (swine flu) when it was going around 2 years ago, and it was the worst 2 weeks of my life. At the time I came down sick, the H1N1 vaccine still wasn’t available to all but the high risk groups.

That being said, even if it was available, I wouldn’t have gotten it. I refuse the flu shot each year, and this year, I will also be refusing it for my 4mth old daughter.

I’m not against vaccines on a whole, but I do choose to selectively vaccinate. I think there are too many vaccines out there, and many are rushed out to the public, only to cause serious side effects and having warnings issued after the fact.

TS commented on Oct 06 11 at 1:43 pm

I would strongly encourage everyone to discuss flu shots with your healthcare providers. What do they recommend for you and for your children? Before you make important decisions to receive the a vaccine or not, you should consult with an expert on the matter. Read about flu shots through reliable, trusted resources, like the CDC’s website. Be smart. We’re all in this together!

Heather commented on Oct 06 11 at 2:13 pm

If you feel comfortable forgoing the flu shot for Addison, thats fantastic. I, however, hate the flu and get my shot every year. I’m also a nurse so I’m most likely to come in contact with the stuff and bring it home. No matter how fastidious I am about hand washing, (and I am, believe me) I have no idea if I’ve just walked through a just-coughed cloud of airborne influenza droplets or not. My son has asthma and so I keep him up to date on the flu shot. My baby will get vaccinated as well as soon as he’s 6 months old. I’m not willing to risk him getting exposed and getting the flu.

Katy E commented on Oct 06 11 at 3:28 pm

The only time I’ve had the flu in 30 years was after a flu shot. No flu shot for me or my son. Plus… I’m fairly sure the government is using them to track us. *goes off to make a new foil hat*

Shandeigh commented on Oct 06 11 at 4:47 pm

You can’t get the flu from the flu shot. It takes 2 weeks to fully kick in, so you can get the flu during that time, but not from the shot itself.

Kate commented on Oct 06 11 at 4:59 pm

Hundreds of infants and children (not to mention thousands of elderly) die each year in the United States from the influenza virus (“the flu”). These deaths can be prevented by the influenza virus vaccine (“flu vaccine”) which has been proven safe and effective.

Danielle, imagine if a parent reads this article and as a result does not properly immunize their child who later dies from the influenza. You will have blood on your hands. This kind of misinformation is not just ignorant, it is dangerous.

Dan Abnormal commented on Oct 06 11 at 5:34 pm

I always thought that I got the flu every year – that it was not much more than a bad cold. It wasn’t until I ended up in Urgent Care one night, convinced that I had contracted malaria or typhoid or some other sort of lethal and exotic illness and learned that it was just standard, run of the mill influenza, that I realized I had never had the flu before. It was horrible. And it wasn’t a 24-48 hour thing (like a stomach flu) – I was out of commission for a solid week. After that, I have gotten the flu shot every year, and now that I’m a mom, my kids (ages 4 and 1) get it, too.

Kate1202 commented on Oct 06 11 at 7:26 pm

@Dan Abnormal- If someone on the internet uses a opinion piece on a blog written by a mother as medical advice, I think there is a deeper issue. No one here is giving medical advice, I am just sharing my story. That is all!

Danielle625 commented on Oct 06 11 at 9:37 pm

My mother in law has cancer and can’t be exposed to germs without extreme danger. My son has asthma. I am pregnant. Flu shots all around in our household! I’m absolutely terrified that someone in my son’s class won’t have the whooping cough or chicken pox vaccine and I’ll pick it up during volunteer hours because I didn’t think to get those shots until my damned pregnancy when they are not a choice.

Kitten commented on Oct 06 11 at 11:16 pm

I think I’m going to skip it for my boy. It scares me. It’s not natural and I don’t trust it. I’ve never had a flu shot in my life and tend to be much healthier all winter then those I know who get it.
http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/child-flu-vaccine-scare-sparks-public-health-probe-20100504-u6nn.html

Beth commented on Oct 07 11 at 3:06 am

“Many parents swear by them.” You make it sound rather trivial, when for many people, getting a flu shot may save their life or at least prevent serious complications.
It’s unfortunate that many people who choose not to vaccinate are so willing to announce their refusal to the world, whereas the majority, the people who do vaccinate, don’t. Then all the people who are undecided receive a rather biased view. If you choose use your platform this way, at least provide some facts or references to why you plan to skip the vaccination. Right now, your article just states that it isn’t really necessary. If that’s the only reason, then I have to ask, why NOT get it, on the offchance that maybe it comes with some benefits?

HeyBeckyJ commented on Oct 07 11 at 7:29 am

from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention

(http://www.cdc.gov/flu/protect/children.htm)

•Children commonly need medical care because of influenza, especially before they turn 5 years old.
•Each year an average of 20,000 children under the age of 5 are hospitalized because of influenza complications.
•Flu seasons vary in severity, however some children will die from flu each year. From 2003-2004 to 2010-2011, pediatric deaths reported to CDC ranged from 46 to 153 per year. During the 2009 H1N1 pandemic, 345 deaths in children were reported to CDC from April 26, 2009 to May 22, 2010.
•Severe influenza complications are most common in children younger than 2 years old.
•Children with chronic health problems like asthma and diabetes are at especially high risk of developing serious flu complications

Concerned Peds Doctor commented on Oct 07 11 at 11:07 am

Vaccines may not be “natural”, but infectious diseases and death from those diseases are “natural”. I’ve already had my 8 month old vaccinated.

Natalie commented on Oct 07 11 at 12:51 pm

I’m a big fan of flu shots. I bug everyone to get one who comes into contact with me since I can’t get one due to an egg allergy. One of my allied health professors describes flu shots best as “keeping you out of the hospital or the morgue” which may sound dramatic, but is true enough. A flu shot may not keep you from getting the flu, but it tends to make you less sick and that means less risk of hospital visits. My 3 yo daughter saw that Sid the Science Kid episode where everyone gets flu shots and requested hers earlier this week, of all things. “It hurts a little bit, Mommy, but it keeps me healthy!” she told me. Maybe the person whose health you protect by getting vaccinated (yes, even the flu shot) isn’t yours, but you never know who might get very sick if they catch the flu. Pretty please, vaccinate so we all stay healthier together.

Marie commented on Oct 07 11 at 3:24 pm

UGH. You were one of my favorite bloggers. I’m disappointed in you. How did you educate yourself on this matter? I doubt that you’d forgo this flu shot if you had chosen reputable sources. And, you’d know that hand washing is nearly useless over illnesses that are spread via droplet. I’m an ICU nurse and I am so sick and tired of seeing family members grieve over the loss of a loved one due to the flu. I agree with Dan Abnormal. Parents do make dumb parenting decisions b/c of what they read on things like this. It happens. And, for those of you who think you got the flu FROM a flu shot. You didn’t. Its impossible. Look it up.

Holly commented on Oct 07 11 at 9:35 pm

I used to forgo the flu shot. I also used to think that nasty stomach bugs were the flu.

Then I got the flu. The real flu. And I wanted to die. And then I got it again the next year and spent another week and a half, exhausted, crawling back and forth between the bed and the toilet, crying, sleeping, sweating through my clothes, and wishing I could go to sleep and never wake up.

Sure, I’d get through it if I got it again, and I could likely nurse my kiddo through a bout with influenza if she were unfortunate enough to contract it, but if there’s any way for me to avoid that fate for anyone in my family, I’m happy to take it. It’s freaking miserable.

And, for the record, I’m an obsessive handwasher (esp after shopping, riding public transit, etc.), keep a clean home, etc. But while those things can certainly help your odds of avoiding the flu a little, they’re clearly not always enough.

Jo commented on Oct 08 11 at 11:17 am

To clarify something: You CAN get the flu from the flu VACCINE. NOT the flu SHOT however, but from the NASAL SPRAY VACCINE. Others with compromised immune systems can even catch the flu from someone who has had the nasal spray vaccine even if they don’t get the flu from the vaccine themselves.

Anywho, My 8 month old has already had the first shot and will have the second in a few weeks (in their first year, babies get two flu shots, 5 weeks apart).

I was previously very anti-flu shot and we’re on an alternate vaccine schedule altogether. I figured he’s a low risk to get the flu since he stays home with me and is breastfed. I’ve had the flu once and have never had the vaccine. But then he got pneumonia a couple months ago and I guess that kind of scared me, even though it wasn’t a serious case and got better quite quickly. Plus his grandma is a elementary teacher and is not getting the flu shot herself, she seems to get sick every year so I don’t want to take a chance of her getting my baby sick.

Reese commented on Oct 09 11 at 10:18 am

My son got the flu at 7 weeks old which he got from me (I was misdiagnosed at the doctor’s for having a respiratory infection…. they didn’t even attempt to TEST me for flu and I didn’t feel bad enough to ASK). It was SO HEARTWRENCHING to watch him be so sick and not to mention the fact that people are more worried that the flu will manifest to pneumonia….. (which a friend of mine’s sister got after she gave birth to her daughter…. turned into pneumonia and never recovered because her body was trying to heal after the birth…. she died a month later.)
I don’t see what the point is to even risk it? I know there is a slim chance… but still, I don’t want the chance. Thanks.

KBeach commented on Oct 09 11 at 10:22 am

Such harsh comments wow. You can’t say she has blood on her hands or is spouting anti vaccine propaganda, its a blog, which is an opinion, shes simply stating whats worked best for her family. As a healthcare worker, I get the flu vaccine for myself. I work with hospice patients and wouldn’t want to give them the flu on top of everything else already going on. I got my son the vaccine when he was a baby, only because my job and that his sister is in school, the flu is always rough for an infant. This year, I probably won’t get them vaccinated. He’s healthy, she’s healthy, and i don’t see the point of dragging them in for one more shot. As the season goes on, I might change my mind. We’ll see. Overreacting to a simple blog asking for differning opinions is simply showing that we’re a world of overly pc negative people. Also it assumes people are gernally stupid and can’t make an informed decision “omg if shes not doing it, maybe I shouldn’t also”. Really? Calm down a bit.

Kristina White commented on Oct 09 11 at 10:22 am

Danielle- I applaud you for standing up for what you believe in. I agree with you across the board. You know your family, and you know what’s best given your particular circumstances. People can say what they want about the CDC, and medical professionals being the “experts,” but let’s don’t forget that they all answer to someone too. Pharmaceutical companies, lobbyist groups, government agencies… whoever. So, sure, educate yourself as much as possible from as many sources as possible, then do what you feel is best for your family. Foreign chemicals and synthetic substances have absolutely no place in our bodies. I choose as Danielle does- no flu shots for my family.

Bond commented on Oct 09 11 at 2:46 pm

Oh, Bond… whatever would you do if someone was actually very sick in your family? (which I would hope not) Refuse medications? They’re synthetic. The fact of the matter is that the flu is spread much faster because of people that don’t vaccinate, regardless of lobbyists. This is a sad truth that I have seen first-hand on several occasions… as I am a medical professional as well. The flu kills.

Casey commented on Oct 09 11 at 10:30 pm

“It’s unfortunate that many people who choose not to vaccinate are so willing to announce their refusal to the world, whereas the majority, the people who do vaccinate, don’t. Then all the people who are undecided receive a rather biased view.”

I agree with this which is why I’m posting to say we gladly vaccine.

Shandra commented on Oct 10 11 at 9:52 am

I love how the medical community claims we need it, but yet it comes with a price tag. Hmmm, another way to make money. Just cause someone from the medical community say we need to vaccinate, doesn’t make it truth. The flu shot is made up of the three top influenza strings of the year before….that doesn’t mean protection for this years influenza season. For me and my home, we will not be getting the influenza vaccination and we haven’t the last 2 years and the most my kids have had are the common cold.

Amanda S commented on Oct 16 11 at 9:24 pm

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