“Single mom”
Posted November 4th, 2011 at 9:00 am
Apparently the posts Sweetney and I wrote about being single moms (in response to the Jezebel piece about marketers segmenting the single mom demographic into really weird groups) upset some people, who think that women like me shouldn’t be allowed to describe ourselves as single moms. I call BS.
If you are single, and you are a mom, you are a single mom. If you are single, and you are a dad, you are a single dad. If you are single, and you are a parent, you are a single parent.
My saying that I’m a single mom doesn’t mean that my kids’ dad isn’t in their life and isn’t an equal parent. He calls himself a single dad (right there in his “About Doug” section), and that doesn’t take anything away from me. (We’ve talked about it.)
The idea that “single mom” has all this weird cultural baggage and implications of nobility and shame and poverty and humility and sacrifice is bizarre, since those concepts apply to some of us but not others. And to married/partnered parents, too! I know plenty of partnered (hey, lesbians can be moms and even single moms, too, and gay men can be dads and single dads) parents who have tons of struggle with finances, who got pregnant accidentally as teenagers, and who sacrifice like crazy for their kids. I know plenty of single mothers who don’t get any support from their children’s other parent (if there is one) but who have financial and emotional support from others. And there are plenty of us who wish we were the only ones making decisions because making decisions about our kids with another person who doesn’t share our values is continually painful. So the idea that being a single parent is a comment on the minute-by-minute quality of your life, and that it makes you somehow more sacrificing, is nothing but a Horatio Alger myth (with some hetero privilege and sexism thrown in).
What is simply a descriptor, like “right-handed” or “blue-eyed,” has taken on a mythic quality that reduces the people who wear the Single Mom badge to nothing but that and minimizes those of us who aren’t struggling every second of every day. It’s not good for anyone.
If you really think that only certain people deserve to use the descriptor “single mom,” then where do you draw the line? Just the act of deciding that some people are worthy and others aren’t is, in fact, a Mommy Drive-by, no more worth your time and energy than getting upset about who works outside the home and who doesn’t, who feeds their children all organic foods and who doesn’t, who sends their children to school and who homeschools. What do you get out of feeding the judgment monster?
If you want to be a misogynist and pit women (parents) against each other, I can’t stop you. But I WILL stand up and say that I’m not going to play Misery Poker, and I’m not going to say that my friend who is single and doesn’t have primary custody of her children is less than my friend whose son’s father has never seen him is less than my friend whose husband died of cancer when their twins were a few months old is less than my friend whose kids’ father sees them twice a week for a few hours and tosses her 50 bucks sometimes when he can is less than my friend whose ex-husband contributes significantly to her income is less than my friend whose wife left her for the woman across the street is less than than my friend’s mother who had her at the age of 15 and lived with her parents to raise my friend is less than my friend who adopted her daughter alone. And I’m not going to say than any of them are less or more than my single male friends who have all kinds of custody and financial arrangements but who do the absolute best for their children, either.
If I get remarried or partnered, then I won’t be single, so I won’t be a single mom anymore. But until then, I’m a single mom. And that doesn’t imply anything else about me except that I have kids and I’m not In a Relationship. And that’s all it says about any of the other single parents I know.
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71 Comments
Kristina commented on Nov 04 11 at 10:05 amThat about sums it up then! *Applause*
Laura commented on Nov 04 11 at 10:14 amI just love your ways of verbalizing your thoughts!
Annonymous commented on Nov 04 11 at 10:34 amDivorced means Not in a Relationship, and that is what you are.
No longer married.
Divorced. Woman. Mom. Runner.
Not single.
Magda Pecsenye commented on Nov 04 11 at 10:37 amOh, Katy, or Bethann, or Mike, or Chris, or whatever your real name is. I got divorced. Divorce doesn’t define who I am. And neither does your opinion.
Huffinpuff commented on Nov 04 11 at 10:54 amOpinions… Blogs… I read your pieces in the huffington post and felt you identified yourself as divorced. If you had to check a box:
Single
Divorced
WidowedWhich?
You may have been single once, but you are now divorced. You even write about it, profit from it. Public blogs solicit opinions of readers, some may disagree. If you can’t hang with the big dogs, stay out of the huffpo!
Magda Pecsenye commented on Nov 04 11 at 11:03 amHow are divorced and single mutually exclusive? I know plenty of people who are divorced and married. Divorced and widowed. Divorced and single. Divorce is an experience that people go through. Not a condition that defines them. It makes a lot of us stronger, but it’s not the sum total of who we are.
(Also, no one profits from HuffPo except the owners. I haven’t made a single penny from getting divorced. And I don’t write for HuffPo anymore. This is Babble.)
Jen commented on Nov 04 11 at 11:14 amI don’t understand why some people feel the need to get so hung up on the label! Divorced and single; divorced and remarried. I’ll always be divorced from my kids’ dad. I might not always be single, but I am right now. I was once married. I am not now married. Therefore, I am single. And a mom. Ergo, single mom.
Why does anyone care so much on how other people identify themselves? What do you, anonymous commenter[s], get out of making an issue out of how someone chooses to identify themselves? Why is it any skin off your nose?
Kathleen commented on Nov 04 11 at 11:15 amI thought that single meant “not currently married,” not “never married.” So anyone that is not married but has kids is a single parent. No matter how they got there, via divorce, widowed, knocked up but not married.
These people who feel the need to say, “No, you are a divorced parent!” For God’s sake, find something constructive to do with your time! Each person can call themselves whatever they want. It’s not your job to label everyone or to judge what someone calls themselves.
Linda commented on Nov 04 11 at 11:31 amBut you’re missing the WHOLE point, anonymous commenter. We don’t need to qualify how one BECOMES a single parent, just that as of today, I am a single parent. The details are different for everybody. I assume that the tediousness of qualifying divorced vs. single hits anonymous in a very vulnerable spot, and unfortunately instead of processing her own pain is using her misery to bring you down. Because it’s hurtful, anonymous commenter, and it’s sad that you need to spread your hurt around.
zchamu commented on Nov 04 11 at 11:31 amWhy do people feel the need to compete in the Suffering Olympics? Seriously.
Doug French commented on Nov 04 11 at 11:49 amAnd predictably, the Judgment Monster is feeding only on women. From what I’ve seen, there’s no spectrum of singularity among single dads. For us, “single dad” just means 1) we’ve procreated, and 2) we can go on dates.
pennifer commented on Nov 04 11 at 12:39 pmWhile we are nit-picking, Anonymous, divorced means “not in THAT relationship”. It does not mean “not in A relationship.”
Melissa L. commented on Nov 04 11 at 1:20 pmOMG! Now I really don’t know what box to check! I’ve been single, married, divorced, remarried, and now widowed. It’s ridiculous that you should even have to try to choose some “category” to identify yourself, but since I have two awesome children and now find myself single, I will call myself a single mom. Kudos, Magda, for calling this out and laying it to rest!
Susannah commented on Nov 04 11 at 1:55 pmHow about “solo parent” to describe parenting on your own? That’s what I use. You can be a solo parent by choice, by accident, death, divorce, or maybe other ways. But the point is, you are taking sole responsibility for the child(ren). Perhaps with extended family and friends’ help, but ultimately the buck stops with you.
“Solo” in this case modifies “parent”, as in: “I am the only parent responsible for this child”. The opposite of coparent.
“Single”, in my book, modifies the person’s marital status, not their parenting status. So you can be a single or a married parent (coparent) without being a solo parent, if someone else is also taking responsibility for the kids.
The opposite can be true too: if you are not married, you might still have a romantic partner with whom you share your adult life, but if you do not (perhaps yet) share the parenting, you might still be a solo parent.
Magda Pecsenye commented on Nov 04 11 at 1:56 pmOoooh. Brilliant, Susannah. That’s it.
Jen commented on Nov 05 11 at 9:34 amSo, a bunch of divorcees are hijacking the single mom title?
Molly Monet commented on Nov 06 11 at 8:07 amI’m so glad that you wrote this article. My ex gets infuriated when I use the term single mom because he feels like it is erasing his participation in the kids’ life. I too see it as simply a comment on my relationship status. Maybe solo parent is better, but whatever. I do raise my kids alone when they are with me, which is the majority of the time. This is no badge of honor (or shame).
sara jane commented on Nov 07 11 at 9:55 amEXACTLY JEN! That’s how I feel. I understand what Moxie is saying, I truly do. However; until you are a SOLO/SINGLE/I’M THE ONLY ONE PAYING AND MAKING DECISIONS parent, you are not single. You are co-parenting with the child’s father/ex-partner whatever. Widows are single parents – OF COURSE. Unless they are partnered up with someone else who is contributing to finances and decisions – they are single. I’m sorry – but anyone who has a “Co-Parenting” Blog is NOT a single mother.
Magda Pecsenye commented on Nov 07 11 at 10:04 amWow, Jen and Sara Jane, do you have any idea how hateful you sound? And you’re not using logic. What about girls who get pregnant and live with their parents who financially support them and help them make decisions about their children. Are they not single moms? Or what about women who were never married to the other parent of their children? They’re not divorced, but by your logic they’re not single moms, either. Think about the dictionary definitions of the terms you’re using. Solo parent means you do it alone. Single parent means you’re single and you’re a parent. That’s not “hijacking.” That’s using language correctly.
I understand that for whatever reason you resent me personally. That’s fine. But don’t go around telling thousands of women their experience isn’t valid just because you’re trying to insult me.
Jen commented on Nov 07 11 at 11:07 amMagda, I wasn’t trying to insult anyone.
Mainstream media and people that have been exposed to “tradtional” single moms draw a distinction, that’s all.
When you call yourself a single mom, depending on your own experiences, generally people assume never married or not to the baby daddy anyway. Colloquial usage. The divorcees are separating terms here and using it in order to not be categorized as divorced. I think everyone gets the single + mom argument, that’s simply not how the term is used everywhere. Accusing people of poor logic while soliciting blog comments is insulting.
As far as single dad. That is simply rare to find. Not as much discussion.
Magda Pecsenye commented on Nov 07 11 at 11:26 amSo we can agree that we find each others’ comments insulting.
And I don’t know what you mean by “traditional” single moms. There have always, always been single moms, meaning moms who weren’t married, with various arrangements, ranging from never having a partner to being divorced but the kids still seeing the fathers. What about the whole alimony era? By your argument now, any woman who received alimony from a former partner isn’t a “real” single mom, and yet those women are part of the same lore that you talk about. Were they “hijacking” the term then?
It’s all just judgment, about who’s in and who’s out. It’s misogynist. (And “simply rare to find” isn’t any reason to exempt men from your judgment, even assuming it’s true that they’re rare.) My ex-husband the single dad called it out.
Jen commented on Nov 07 11 at 12:10 pmYes, they would’ve been hijacking the term. In my opinion.
I can’t think of a single dad. Nope. Not one.
Many, many single moms out there. Women that struggle to solely support their kids, without any contact from the fathers. When a child, perhaps in the elementary school tells one of your children that his mom is a single mom, is your child going to ask if his dad took him trick or treating? That poor kid.
Magda Pecsenye commented on Nov 07 11 at 12:13 pmSo are you saying that men who aren’t married who have children aren’t single? Or that they aren’t dads?
Jen commented on Nov 07 11 at 2:00 pmIs there any pine or apple in a pineapple?
sara jane commented on Nov 07 11 at 2:24 pmAre you serious? Personal vendetta against you? Maybe I am sensitive to the title and how easily people label themselves as a single parent. I am a single parent. I receive no financial help from anyone. Not my parents, government, my child’s father, friends, etc. I must just be a little sensitive when it comes to this because of those factors. No one else takes the role of parenting my child as important as I do (or HAS to as seriously) because I am a single parent. Luckily for you, you have the children’s father to help you through the “only a parent can struggle with” decisions. I am not trying to be ignorant, biased, unsympathatic, or hateful as you say but hopeful that you understand. Understand that I am a single parent. Who used to look to you for support and guidance on many subjects because I didn’t have anyone else to go to. =(
Magda Pecsenye commented on Nov 07 11 at 2:38 pmSara Jane, I understand that you’ve had a really rough time. But why does that mean that you have to draw a hard line that excludes other people who, in reality, are on your side, if you weren’t telling them they aren’t? I feel bad that you have no one to help you. But by telling other parents who have so many common experiences with you that they aren’t as deserving as you are, it hurts people. I am so, so so insulted when you say that my friends who are struggling, HARD, are not single moms, just because they don’t have it quite as rough as you do. You are making the decision to break connections that could help you. All because you feel the need to own a label.
FWIW, I wish I had the luxury of making decisions about my children without having to get the approval of someone who rarely agrees with me. Arguing about almost every thing is stressful and exhausting. I don’t find it lucky, nor is it “help.”
Jen commented on Nov 08 11 at 8:08 amThat was patronizing, at best.
I don’t really care if you call yourself black, single, divorced, latina, a professional. But it was worth trying to explain how that would be translated in common terms. Your ex has your boys, shares custody, responsibilities etc.
If you want those you encounter to believe you do it alone, if you want to “play the single mom card” fine. No skin off my nose. None at all.
Kelly commented on Nov 08 11 at 8:28 amJust want to pitch in that I am 34 years old and was raised by my dad, a single dad (he was also a nurse back then, so he was really bucking the trend!). My dad is awesome, a huge part of my life, and I would support however he (and my mom, and anyone else for that matter) wants to categorize himself. We ALL have the right to say what we are. Doesn’t matter if you don’t agree. No one can EVER know what it’s like to walk in another person’s shoes, even if they’ve gone through the same experiences. Just like babies, we are all different, and we all have the right to be!
girdtmom commented on Nov 08 11 at 11:49 amWow. And I thought that my mom was skilled at playing the martyr.
I have only one personal observation to offer here, for the little good it is likely to do. Even from middle age, it is a very quick voyage back to the gut-wrenchingly awful feeling of thinking that you are a burden to the one person you depend upon most in the entire world.
That’s all I have to say.
Mel commented on Nov 08 11 at 6:53 pmWhat is patronizing is being so egocentric that you feel the need to categorize other people according to your own insecurities. “Single” mom is a statement of relationship status, no more, no less. If you aren’t married or in a serious relationship you are single and if you have kids you are a parent, hence single parent. Why do we have to bully other people? Its sad, parenting is hard enough why divide into exclusionary hierarchy groups and make it harder. SMH!
Wait just a minute commented on Nov 09 11 at 7:31 amSingle Mom isn’t an “exclusive club”, and we aren’t trying to bully anyone.
It seems the divorcees wanted a change of title and are now bullying the single moms. This is ridiculous.
Jilly commented on Nov 09 11 at 8:34 amThe thing is, the original article that gave rise to this whole discussion doesn’t really capture separate categories of mothers, but different moments in our lives. I have had moments where I could have met any of those descriptions, not because of my marital or support status, but because being a mother (and woman) can suck and be liberating all in the space of an hour. I don’t live my life at one point on a spectrum because no one told my experiences (and my emotional make up that responds to those experiences) that they have boundaries. The marketers want to appeal to you in a particular moment in time. To recognize an experience you have had and therefore align yourself with the product of the moment. Can’t we recognize the commonality of our experiences and responses and spend a bit less time on transient labels?
Wait just a minute commented on Nov 09 11 at 9:17 amGirtdmom is right.
This is a waste of time and way to make your kids (assuming they can read this) feel like a burden.
These poor, poor divorcees have taken misery poker to a new level, bullied single moms and accused them of being exclusionary. Wow. Just wow.
Magda Pecsenye commented on Nov 09 11 at 9:32 amYou have no idea what anyone’s situation is. None. Dividing up women into “the divorcees” vs. “single” moms makes no sense whatsoever.
My children are not a burden. I hope yours aren’t, either.
Wait just a minute commented on Nov 09 11 at 11:29 amNor do you. No idea. That much is clear.
Everyone makes choices in life.
Study hard, play hard
Go away to college/go locally
Major in something they love/pay the bills
Get married/get divorced
Have kids/don’tWe can’t always contol everything though, but we can make the best of it.
Be happy with yourself, your kids, your ex that covers for you, your family, job, life. It’s short.
Jen commented on Nov 09 11 at 11:39 amI know quite a few women who are divorced, and I don’t know ANYONE who refers to them as “divorcees” — not themselves, not anyone else. That’s an antiquated term out of the 60s and 70s when divorce was not as common and people did feel the need to point out when someone was divorced. Unlike “single mom” for me, it does feel like a term with baggage, with implications of shame and/or shock, whispered behind hands. It’s not in common usage and it’s not a viable alternative to single mom, even if we wanted to draw a line between women who have never been married and women who have, because the point here is whether or not a women is a parent. It doesn’t tell you one way or the other, so if for some reason I’m trying to identify my status as a mother, or letting someone know I have kids, “divorcee” isn’t an appropriate term.
I keep returning to this thread because I’m just so flabbergasted by the vitriol against divorced moms. It seems like resentment, the assumption that divorced moms get more support? Although that’s not necessarily true, of course.
I don’t know any divorced moms who ever thought that we were co-opting anything by calling ourselves single, just using it as a statement of fact about not being married anymore. I do tell people I’m divorced, when it seems appropriate, but I also haven’t run into that phenomenon described above where I say I’m a single mom and people make assumptions about my kids’ dad involvement or lack thereof, or whether or not I was married to him. I really don’t think *most* people make the assumptions several of the commentors in this thread seems to think everyone does about the term “single mom.” I really think that for most people, it’s just a descriptor. It certainly always was for me, even before I was one; when I was married, some of my mom friends were single, either because they’d never been married or because they were divorced, and I never really felt the need to divide them into categories based on who had it the most crappy.
JenT commented on Nov 09 11 at 12:00 pm(I’m the first Jen who commented, by the way, not the second. Gets confusing. There are too many Jens around, in general.)
Divorced Mom commented on Nov 09 11 at 12:38 pmI wish everyone would stop with the misery poker and call a spade a spade.
If the dad plays a role and you are divorced, that makes you a divorced mom. Of course you are single! Date away, but to your kids, and others, you are a divorced mom, divorcee with kids, whatever. If you remarry, you are married to somebody else, but still divorced from your kids dad. If the ex dies? Mom with kids who’s father has passed :( It’s not really necessary to go through every scenario, but like Jen stated. She does explain that she is divorced from her kids dad. She doesn’t let others assume he is absentee.
If the dad is absentee, you are a single mom. Not miserable or crappy. Joy. No shame. No guilt. Just a single mom.
JenT commented on Nov 09 11 at 1:22 pmWell, I do say I’m divorced if it is relevant to the conversation. I don’t go into lengthy explanations of any sort when it’s not appropriate, and I also refer to myself as a single mom all the time. I don’t think that’s playing misery poker, to use a phrase that to me and plenty of other people is merely descriptive. Misery poker is when people start saying “you don’t get to use this phrase because you get 50 bucks a week from your kids’ dad and this other mom over here gets nothing” or “you’re not a single mom because you were married at one time and this person over here wasn’t married.” That makes no sense to me whatsoever. As I said in my previous comment, I just don’t get the vitriol over what I’ve always thought of as a simple descriptor. I had no idea there were such divisions being created among a group of women who ought to be supports for each other instead of tearing each other down.
h2o_girl commented on Nov 09 11 at 5:46 pmWow. All this angst over titles flabbergasts me, to be honest. I am a single mom. It’s a descriptive phrase. I never married my kid’s dad. We were together for the first five years of her life, and have been apart for the last nine. She goes back and forth between our houses. So I’m obviously not a divorced mom, but I don’t have sole custody of her either, so what would that make me (besides a harlot, which I’ve been called). Of course I’m a single mom, and have been for the past nine years.
Francie commented on Nov 09 11 at 5:48 pmThe box that has “divorced” is only used for demographics. Legally, divorced means your single. See IRS Pub 501. I was divorced with four children. My ex was locked up for raping my daughter and has had no contact or financial responsibility for ten years. Was I a single parent? I say yes. But, I shouldn’t have to explain something that personal to defend my stance. I am now engaged and have two more children with one on the way. Not married. Am I single? I say no. He is always here, we live together, and will be married. But, I am technically single. I think there’s too much bickering. We all have problems whether we’re married or not.
Cheryl commented on Nov 09 11 at 5:50 pmI was married to my kids dad, now I am Divorced. Having been married to the jerk does Not define me, nor will it ever define me. The only thing to ever come out of that miserable experience was my kids. I pay for everything that the kids need by myself. I am not dating anyone, I am not married to someone else. I am single. My Ex only pays court ordered child support when the courts say if he doesn’t pay something then he goes to jail, then it is the minimum that he can get away with. I pay all the bills, buy all the clothes, school supplies, toys, extra after school activities things all by myself.. I am doing it all on my own. So your darn right I am a SINGLE mom. No one is helping me. I don’t ask anyone to help me. I get in there and make sure that my kids needs are meet. Don’t you dare tell me that because I was at one time married, that I am not a single mom. It takes away what I have been doing for my kids, it applies that because I was divorced that I have to give my ex some credit for how my kids have been raised and the things that they have. My Ex is a deadbeat and doesn’t deserve to have any credit. I’ve done it all Singularly BY MY SELF. Makes me a single mom.
Cheryl commented on Nov 09 11 at 5:52 pmbtw.. When it comes to the box. I do check single. Because it doesn’t matter at the doctors office or anywhere else that over 6 years ago I was once married.. I am single now.
anondad commented on Nov 09 11 at 6:04 pmI agree – I just think it sucks when people use the ‘single dad’ or ‘single mom’ thing as a badge of martyrdom. People DO use that to elicit emotional responses and sympathy from peope, and if they don’t really go through much hardship compared to the archetypal ‘single mom’, I think they’re just using that as a cover to manipulate people. My kids mom boo-hoo’s all the time about being a single mom, like her life is so hard. But it ISN’T. She’s priveleged, has her parents buying her a new car and a new house, has support being dumped on her from all corners. Has lots of friends, parents that help her out etc. all the time. Never has to worry about money. The only thing that equates her to the stereotype she’s trying to be a part of is the ‘single’ part. She can take care of that finding someone she likes. Just my humble opinion.
andrea commented on Nov 09 11 at 6:04 pmwait soo because my dad came and visited once every 2 years my mom wasnt a single mom???? and its not right to say o because you were married you not a single mom now you are a single mom as you are single as in 1 and your a mom get over yourself might as well trow you a pity party.
I'm right commented on Nov 09 11 at 6:17 pmThe definition of single is unmarried. If you’re divorced, you’re unmarried. Therefore you are single. Being a single mom has nothing to do with finances either. If you get child support, you’re still a single mom. To argue otherwise, it’s ignorant and pointless.
Alicia commented on Nov 09 11 at 6:25 pmThere are a lot of single dads out there, no matter their past state. One friend raised his daughter alone after his divorce, another shares custody with his ex wife, but just about all parenting decisions he makes when he has his kd he makes on his own.
Everyone is making a big deal out of nothing. These are all semantics. Why not focus on the one label that matters most, that of PARENT.
Beckie commented on Nov 09 11 at 6:37 pmI knew a single dad. My husband was raised by one. Yet, he was also divorced, so should he be called a divorced dad by the same logic that others are putting forth here?
If you are not in a relationship, then you are single. Simple as that. If you raise a child, then you are a parent. If you are both, you are a single parent.
For those that are claiming this is a mutually exclusive title because no one goes through the same struggles as a “true” single parent… just stop.
Everyone struggles and make sacrifices, or should, when they pull on the mantle of parenthood. It’s what you do to ensure that your children have all the opportunities and love that they can.
I’m honored to be a parent. I’m lucky enough to have a partner to share that with. And I’m even luckier that said partner was raised by someone who never worried about whether he was single or divorced, because quite frankly, he had better things to do, and tried to do simply the best that he could for his son.
He did far, far more than his best. He was one of the best fathers that I have ever met, and I hope that there are more single dads out there just like him.
Teresa commented on Nov 09 11 at 6:55 pmMy opinion, for what it’s worth, is that everyone makes their own assumption when they hear the term “single mom.” I use the phrase “solo parent” more often because I am the one and only parent for my children and have been for twelve years. Technically I’m a divorced mom, but when I have referred to myself that way, others assume that the kids’ dad is involved in their lives. He isn’t. So I go with people’s inferences and say that I’m solo, though I use single sometimes, too.
Call yourself what you prefer. Others will interpret that how they will. So be it.
Jilly commented on Nov 10 11 at 6:22 amPeople, words and phrases can have more than one meaning. If you’re worried that your meaning is clouded, USE MORE WORDS.
Stephanie commented on Nov 11 11 at 5:04 pmI read most of the comments and found that alot of them were really just beating a dead horse.
I am not a single mom, I am as one commented flying this plane solo. We are a military family not seperated, or we couldn’t get along , or because the condom broke and now I’m having a baby. Or I wanted a baby got pregnant and then realized how nasty it is when a baby throws up and want to play the “Its hard being a single mom” card.
I wake up before dawn every day, I take kids to school to after school stuff, I hunt up a babysitter as needed for long appts for the one who has disabilties, and yet I am constantly being told how hard my life is. Mostly from single moms who say yea I know how you feel.
No you really really don’t. You wanted to be single, he wanted to be single you got dumped , you dumped him , he moved out of state , you did. Whatever happened. I never wanted him to get sent overseas to fight a war that lasted 10 years. Not once not twice hell not even 6 times. This is the 9th time in 6 years he has been gone for more than 6 months at a shot. Add that up thats 54 months and counting . So for all of you complaining about life and how hard it is to be a single mom. Why dont you think about everyone else doing essentially the same thing, and yet still sacrificing more than you’ll ever realize. I get divorce is hard and yes you to are a type of single parent for the rest of those single parents out there whatever choices you made you are dealing with that now. Just as I chose to marry into the military and make my own sacrifices
MS commented on Nov 12 11 at 6:46 pmWell, if I can’t be a “single” mom based on my husband’s location or “single” based on his no longer being my husband – then shouldn’t these bonafide single moms be “hooker” moms or something a little more rough around the edges? They have a baby and no father in the picture? Maybe they should be “I slept with a guy and can’t remember who on what night, so my title is officially – SINGLE” – mom.
What if we are separated? Am I a separated mom? He’s on the other side of the world – defending your right to stupid opinions – we can’t divorce because he’s out of the country… so what does that make me? “Just because the man I made children with actually loved me and cared for me – I’m not technically a single”-single mom?
Get a life, ladies.
zaksmama commented on Nov 12 11 at 9:25 pmI absolutely refuse to compete in the Suffering Olympics. But I feel the need to claim the “divorced mom” rather than the “single mom” badge because so many people perceive African American moms as having never been married and conceived their children in casual relationships. I want to counter that stereotype and point out that I did wait until after marriage to start a family. Not as a personal “I’m better than THOSE tarts over there thing”, but as a “single moms and African American moms aren’t the welfare queen hoochie mamas you hear certain people foaming at the mouth about”.
LA commented on Nov 13 11 at 2:48 amThe blogger can call herself whatever she wants, but a “single mom” is a mom who has never been married and “divorced mom” is a mom who is divorced (usually from her children’s father), unless she remarries. The title has nothing to do with financial or emotional support from the father, friends or family. If you didn’t have kids, think about how you would introduce yourself to a romantic partner/potential spouse: single or divorced? Either is a status that can be modified by “mom,” but trying to revert to being single — as if you’ve never been married — doesn’t pass the reality test. And it fails in a bigger way if the father is actually alive and involved in your children’s life.
Thebloggerisdelusional commented on Nov 13 11 at 9:32 amThese women are trying to mask or forget the divorce as an “experience” but they have kids. It sends a message when you have kids and you refer to yourself as a single mom. It says the dad is unknown or otherwise not around. Or maybe you had a kid but just never married the father.
Are you that far removed from the public you don’t know this?
Use your semantics to sound younger, but you are really just casting yourselves in a “different” light by saying you’re a single mom.
Stephanie commented on Nov 13 11 at 10:06 amI think most of these comments are ridiculous. Why do any of you feel the need to define someone else’s status? If someone believes themselves to be “single” who are you to tell them otherwise? That’s like telling someone who is on the “down low” that they are gay- they will NEVER agree with you, because to them, they are straight men who sometimes get extra friendly with their male friends. Or telling someone who is biologically a woman but feels they are male, and is attracted to women, that they are gay. They aren’t, they’re transgender or whatever THEY choose to describe themselves as. Or how about, a person with a white mother and black father who identifies themselves as white or black exclusively? Who is anyone else to tell them they are not what they personally view themselves as? I think if you care so much about how someone else identifies themselves, then you are just insecure about your own identity and situation and how you perceive others feel about you.
Thebloggerisdelusional commented on Nov 13 11 at 11:41 amAnother one throwing out random observations to a straightforward issue.
Honestly, I never heard of “down low” or many of the other examples used. But, I do know what a single mom is.
I’ll leave the transgendered to define themselves and take your word for it. The least you can do is respect the opinions of others without being insulting, demeaning and condescending. We can disagree, that’s the right we all have. But to totally discount the opinions, of perhaps the majority is just plain arrogant.
Kait commented on Nov 13 11 at 6:08 pmif you are head of a single parent household and you are a mom. you are a single mom. i am and i call bs too.
Alison commented on Nov 14 11 at 5:16 amI really couldn’t care less how other parents define themselves – parenting is hard as a couple and even harder without another parent in the same household. I don’t have any issue with women who are separated from a partner calling themselves single mothers.
And yet, and yet, Moxie, I do have to confess to feeling a wave of self-pity when friends who are separated from the other parent of their children talk about what we have in common – but can’t see that (since the death of my partner two years ago) ‘single’ parenting for me means doing it all, all of the time. My kid is the best thing in my life and I am so grateful to have her. but there is a quality of difficulty – please note I am speaking of quality not quantity here – that comes with the relentlessness of making every decision, every arrangement, every plan and never, ever, ever getting a weekend off. It’s not always harder – autonomy can be a good thing. But it’s not the same experience and I can see where this debate comes from much as I dislike some of the ways in which it has been expressed.
monica commented on Nov 14 11 at 2:46 pmAfter reading through all of the comments, it seems clear that there are valid points on all sides. Perhaps the crux here is that for the Single Mother by Choice (and I am one) , for the widow or widower with children, for the man who has adopted a child on his own, or for any parent who receives no financial, emotional or practical help from the other parent, the term “single” actually has come to have a double meaning – referring to both the relationship status as well as the parenting status. Clearly, two or three generations ago, when divorce was rare – the term “single mother” meant something very different than it does in the current day, when there are so many divorced (and hence single) mothers. Perhaps, as time moves along, we will all become more accustomed to hearing and using the term “co-parent” vs “solo-parent”, when we refer to how children are being raised, because those terms are rellly more reflective of the parenting aspect of our lives. Only time will tell.
Magda Pecsenye commented on Nov 14 11 at 3:06 pmMonica, That makes a lot of sense. The problem for single parents who still have the other parent involved in their child’s life in some way, though, is that financial, emotional, or practical “help” may not be as enviable as those without it think. If it was truly help, or came without strings, or without fights, or without keeping us up at night or making our stomachs clench every time we knocked on the door to pick up our children, then we probably would still be partners with the child’s other parent. It is extremely hurtful that people assume that divorced mothers (parents) have things easy, when many of us have a different kind of pain that affects our interactions with and access to our children every day. And we usually decide not to talk about it publicly, because to do so would be hurtful to our children.
That pain is not worse than the pain of doing it all alone. But it is real pain. And the assumption that we have it “easy” or have “help” or are “lucky” shows a deliberate lack of compassion, or even curiosity.
My whole point is that we have no idea what pain other people are going through. So why not use our common experience (parenting without a partner) to band together and cut each other some slack, support each other, advocate for an end to the affirmative action toward married men that exists in the workplace and larger world, instead of claiming divisions and moral superiority? What is gained by wearing your pain as a badge of honor? Why not unite to move forward instead?
Divorced Mom commented on Nov 14 11 at 4:54 pmI refer to myself as a divorced mom for those very reasons, my ex is a pain, and that is generally assumed…. You have custody issues, and other things to disagree on, but then again so do married couples. Do you show no compassion for them?
A single mom has different problems, it’s just easier for others to show compassion if they know what set they may be dealing with. A single mother, you may offer help. A divorced mother may only have the kids 3.5 days per week, you may offer a different kind of help. Married couple yet another kind.
Not many have it easy. We all have problems.
lolismum commented on Nov 14 11 at 4:57 pmI don’t care who calls themselves a single mom, divorcee or harlot, but Magda, you are kind of missing the point. Your common experience is not “parenting WITHOUT a partner “. You have a parenting partner who is not your sexual/life partner. Just because there is strife in the “parenting together” part does not mean you are doing the parenting alone. That’s what the “single moms” are referring to. By the same token, there are lots of married moms who are parenting alone or whose parenting choices are constantly questioned by their partners. Just semantically, single parent can mean, single and parent, which is how you interpret it. It can also mean, single in parenting, which is what some of the ladies up in the comments refer to. Single as an adjective describing the parenting act, not an adjective describing the relationship status of the parent. But, colloquially, it is typically used to describe parents who do not have a parenting partner, not a parent without a partner.
Magda Pecsenye commented on Nov 14 11 at 5:04 pmLolismum, then what about women who have parenting partners but aren’t divorced? I’m thinking about my friend who lives with her mom, and they share parenting duties of her son and all finances, but her son has never seen his father. Is she not a single mom, either? By your parameters above, she isn’t.
My point is that if you’re drawing strict lines about who is single modifying parenting (instead of single modifying relationship status), then there are all kinds of people who aren’t going to fit in to whatever narrow definition you draw.
lolismum commented on Nov 14 11 at 5:19 pmBy no means am I suggesting that the stupid term is all inclusive, or nuanced enough to cover a variety of contingencies like the one you cite above. I understand your frustration with the term “single parent” being loaded with the subtext that these are people who will rank higher in the pain olympics. I have a friend who is a single mom, and she uses the following sentence very often, “Cut me some slack, I am a single mom.” There are two (related) issues on the table:
1) The dictionary vs. colloquial use of the word single parent.
2) The subtext associated with the use of the word.
You want the term to be more inclusive, closer to the dictionary meaning, so that the second issue is off the table. But I don’t think you are doing that effectively when you tell other single moms that you are indeed part of the “having it hard” crowd because co-parenting is fraught with problems and pain. By reiterating the “co-parenting is hard” issue, you are actually falling into the same trap of wanting to claim the label because of the pain.
Divorced Mom commented on Nov 14 11 at 5:28 pmShe is single both ways. A single mom who gets help. That’s awesome. Your kids have grandparents too, right? They help, right? Just another level of help, I assume.
I’m sure your single mom friend disagrees from time to time with her mother, living under the same roof. And if she finds a partner, grandma will be booted as the “partner” you’re using in your example, as a tradtional single mom. Most teens end up in that situation, I know several.
Magda Pecsenye commented on Nov 14 11 at 5:34 pmI think things are getting all mixed up in this thread. I don’t mean that because co-parenting is hard that gives me a right to claim the label single parent. I’m saying that co-parenting can be hard (because I’m betting there are some people for whom it’s not) because of commenters who have made super-judgmental remarks that anyone who is divorced, or whose other parent is in their child’s life, is lucky. I simply don’t think that’s the case. I also don’t think that anyone who is parenting alone is lucky, or that anyone who is a married parent, or a military parent, or anything else is lucky, unless they proclaim themselves to be lucky.
That has nothing to do with the term “single” in single parenting. Which is an issue of dictionary vs. colloquial use, and also of subtext. I don’t think the subtext that single implies a strictly proscribed set of rules is there, based on who I thought of as a single mom when I was a kid and all kinds of cultural images (and, if we’re going back to the original marketing survey that inspired the first post on this, the marketers don’t seem to think that lack of presence of another parent is the defining factor for single moms, either). Obviously others disagree. But again, I don’t see what function drawing lines of who’s In and who’s Out serves, and think drawing those lines minimizes everyone. Which clearly makes me Out for the people who want the term to only apply to them and people just like them.
There is so much anger over this. So much. And we’re turning it against each other instead of trying to help each other.
lolismum commented on Nov 14 11 at 5:48 pmI agree wholeheartedly Magda. I know a few single moms who are in much better positions that divorced moms with alimony and child support and moms still married to some dastardly men. It serves no purpose to be exclusive and no purpose at all to be presumptive about others’ circumstances. I was just trying to clear up some of the misunderstanding between the commenters and you, because at some point it seemed like everyone was talking cross purposes.
And yeah, the whole marketing to “single mom stereotype”. Gah. The less said about that the better.
Divorced Mom commented on Nov 14 11 at 5:53 pmMagda, because people are disagreeing with you doesn’t make them super-judgemental.
But since you went there.
Have you ever said “treat me right/better because I’m a single mom”?I’m guessing by your personal sensitivity to the term, you have.
And some are calling bs on that.
Magda Pecsenye commented on Nov 14 11 at 6:15 pmI have not. (Except jokingly, in the same way I sometimes refer to myself as a “hooker with a heart of gold,” or “just a girl from the Midwest trying to get by in the big city.”) What makes me so sensitive about it is that I know divorced moms who struggle, really hard, and are single moms. And to assume that they have it easy because they happened to be married when they had their kids just makes me very angry.
I don’t mean that everyone who disagreed with me was judgmental. There are some commenters who have been very mean-spirited. A few about me (although I think one of those people is the person who’s been harassing me in various online venues for months), but a few about “the divorcees” or divorced people in general. Those people, yes, are judgmental. Plenty of people have disagreed in thoughtful ways.
lolismum commented on Nov 14 11 at 9:32 pmGood grief. Magda, just walk away, woman, do not engage. People like “there’s no need…” are the ones that give small towns a bad name. Yikes.










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