Moms: What Do You Tell Your Kids About Why You Work?
Posted December 16th, 2010 at 6:55 am
I work a lot of hours. I have a demanding, full time job with a large cable TV network, and I also essentially work a second part time job as a freelance writer/blogger/editor, pulling down more hours on weekends and in the early morning hours before my kids are awake for the day. We absolutely need both of my incomes to stay afloat, and my job also provides our family with health and dental insurance.
In other words, I have to work.
But when my two older children, 15 year old J and 12 year old E sometimes get fed up with how much I’ve worked during a particularly demanding workweek, and ask me why I have to work so much when a lot of their friends’ moms don’t, I always struggle a bit with how to answer.
I’ve probably been asked some variation on this question by my kids at least 10,000 times since I returned to the full time workforce about 8 years ago, but every time, it kind of stops me in my tracks for a second. It’s a toughie.
To be completely honest, my first impulse when the kids whine about my workload is to snap back at them about how hard I work to keep shoes on their feet in the winter. And I’m sure that I have offered up cranky, defensive responses to them on more than a few occasions. But I always feel guilty when I do that, so I try to be more thoughtful in my replies.
I absolutely do want them to understand that housing, food, and yes, shoes do require hard work to acquire, and that I work as hard as I do because as their mother, it’s my job to take care of them and make sure they are safe, warm, dry and fed – not to mention so that I have the ability to pay for braces, music lessons, lacrosse gear and our annual week at the beach. I work because that’s what’s required of me as a parent; I have to work, and they need to understand that. I also work to make sure that when the day comes when I can’t any longer – because I am too old and decrepit, or if I became disabled or something – that I have money banked for my own retirement – nothing lavish, but enough to keep a roof over my head and food in the pantry. (Like many women who stayed home with their kids for a lengthy period, I got a very late start on retirement planning, and I have a lot of catching up to do.)
However, I definitely also want them to understand that while sometimes I wish I didn’t have to work quite so MUCH, I don’t work only because I have to; I also work because I enjoy what I do, and I am good at it. I like my work, and I like the people I get to work with. Both my regular job and my freelance writing are challenging and interesting, and even if I won the lottery and never had to worry about money again, I would certainly continue working to some degree just because it’s fun.
I have to work.
I want to work.
Which message should be primary when my kids don’t understand, or are even irritated by the fact that I had to work late twice in one week? How do I help them better understand that the hours I spend away from them, at my job, are a critical part of taking care of them, of being their mother. But I also need to help them see that I am not just some overworked drudge who only works to pay the bills; I am also a competent, relatively accomplished person in my profession(s)? After all, I want them to eventually choose work that not only offers whatever lifestyle they decide they want, but that they also find challenging and interesting. I don’t want to raise my kids to believe that work is a negative thing that we working moms only do because we are forced into it.
It’s a conundrum. And my 15 year old daughter has told me more than once that when she has a family, she intends to be a stay at home mom and “not work so hard,” like her own mom does. That stings, I have to admit. But then there are the times she tells me she likes something I’ve written that’s been published somewhere, or she asks me to help her with an essay for school because, “you’re such a good writer, Mom,” and then I can see that she’s at least a little bit proud of what I do.
Plus, on snowy days like today, she really does seem to appreciate those shoes I paid for ;-)
What about you other working moms? What do you tell your kids when they ask you why you have to work, or why you have to work so hard or so much? How do you answer those questions? And here’s a question for stay-at-home moms: do your kids ever ask you why you DON’T have a job? If so, how do you answer that question? Does it ever make you feel defensive when they ask it, like I do when my kids ask the opposite question of me?
Tell me in the comments below how these conversations about working (or non working) motherhood play out between you and your kids.
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Elizabeth commented on Dec 16 10 at 7:20 pmI’m not a mom, but I can speak to this issue from the other side. I was raised by a single mother who, for most of my childhood, worked two jobs. At one point she was working two jobs while going to nursing school. She felt terribly guilty about it at the time even though it was absolutely essential to our survival as a family. She’s told me about the many times I asked her the same question and how it broke her heart. But the thing is, I barely remember the hours at day care, the babysitters, or the time I spent home alone. What I do remember, and quite vividly, are the special days when she would take me out of school so we could spend the day together. Saturdays when I would watch her clean the house while singing to Patsy Cline. Summer afternoons at the pool where we’d play my favorite game, “Shark.” And so many more. As a college student, I became a hospice volunteer in part to be able to accompany her on her second job as an on-call hospice nurse. Seeing her at work and witnessing how amazing she was with her patients and their families gave me a whole new appreciation for her as a nurse, as a mother, and as a human being. I continue to be inspired by her example every day.
I think the quality of the time you spend with your children is more valuable than the number of hours. Your kids may complain now, but what they’ll remember in ten years is the time they did get to spend with you. And I’m certain they’ll be inspired and proud of your professional achievements.
Cheers to you, Katie, and to all the working mamas out there!
Teresa Pitman commented on Dec 16 10 at 7:37 pmIt has always seemed important to me to be with my kids. I was at home with them full-time until my marriage broke up, when they were still pretty young, and I then raised them as a single mother. After the divorce, I took some part-time jobs, mostly freelance writing and mostly work I could do at home, mixed with some hours (as few as I could manage) working outside the home. It was important to me to have as much flexibility as I could get so that I could go to their shows, games, etc., and be available to them. They are grown now. They haven’t asked a lot about why I didn’t work when they were younger or why I’ve never had a “regular” job, but my answer when they did ask has always been that I wanted to spend as much time with them as possible. I love them, and I love being with them. I thoroughly enjoy their company even today when they are grown up. While I enjoy writing, and think I have written some good and useful things, I value raising my kids and being with them much, much more.
Stacy commented on Dec 16 10 at 7:38 pmBoth my husband and I work (me – three days a week). Our kids are 15-13 and 4. The kicker is my hubby works in another town – 5.5 hours away. He leaves on Monday and comes home on Friday — NOT the ideal situation, but we can’t sell our house (we’ve been trying for 18 months). The 4 year old (girl) was wondering why daddy had to work so much. Response: to pay the bills. “What are bills?” Hubby response “things like food, clothing and lights” … remember … 4 years old. She is now the light police … “If you turn off the lights, Daddy won’t have to work as much!” Wasn’t our intention … but it’s kinda funny. On the serious side … the olders do understand that it’s a tough job market out there – and mom and dad need to work. Mom power!!!
Kim Waggoner commented on Dec 16 10 at 7:39 pmI was a tutor for Shawn and Sydney for a few years, and Jane came along to my house with Syd a couple of times. ( I guess that was about 7 or 8 years ago?). Anyway , I’ll never forget how Jane told me all about her Momma :) She was so proud of the books and articles you had written. Such a smart, delightful little girl she was ! And I’m sure she still is. :)
Robin commented on Dec 16 10 at 7:43 pmKatie,
This is interesting timing because my husband and I are thinking of starting a family next year. I currently work full-time and always thought I’d want to stay at home because that’s what my mom did and I loved having her home all the time. At the same time when I think back to my childhood I remember the few times I stayed with friends of my family (neighbors) and how much I loved those times because they were so few and far between.
Currently I work in childcare and love my job. As we think about starting a family I am torn on whether or not I want to continue working or stay at home. I’m hoping to have the option (my husband brings in the majority of our income and mine is mostly just extra) I think it’ll be hard to change our lifestyle which we’ll have to without my “extra” income especially with the added cost of a child. It may end up I “have” to work but honestly right now I don’t know what I want to do. I think I’m leaning toward working because I would be able to have my child with me at work. I also know the benefits of childcare and wouldn’t want my child to miss these benefits. Selfishly I would also love to continue caring for other children in addition to my own. (without sounding too conceited, I know how great I am at my job.) Again, I know my feelings may change once I have my own child. I’ve never done it before so I don’t know how I’ll be. I’m glad you posted this because I’m looking forward to the responses as well.
Rachel commented on Dec 16 10 at 8:17 pmI’m a part time stay-at-home mom and a part time worker outside the home. Admittedly, it is the best of both worlds. My two year old can’t ask your question yet, but he can tell me when he wants me to close my laptop and stop working on days I work from home and try to catch an hour of work outside of nap time and bed time.
I think you talk to your kids equally about your passion for your job and the necessity of it. You work late to do a good job just like they sometimes work extra on weekends to get a good grade on a school project, or earn a scout badge or prepare for a game or recital. Some of that may not feel like work to them and sometimes work doesn’t feel like work to you. Writing is part of who you are and how you express who you are. Also talk to your kids about what life would look like if you stayed at home. What would the trade offs be? Not getting to go to the doctor except in emergencies? Not paying the light bill? Would it mean each child would have to give up some activities? Would it mean going on less vacations or moving to a new neighborhood and a smaller house? The earlier teenagers learn about these kinds of decisions, the better. They are just a few years away from making similar decisions.
My relative had a very good job a few hours away from his family when his kids were preteens. When the kids were teenagers, he had an opportunity to live at home 7 days a week but make less money. The family sat down and talked about the differences in lifestyle that would occur even though his wife worked as well. Together the family determined that they wanted to keep the lifestyle they had even if it meant one parent lived in another city 4 days a week. I’m not sure it would have been my decision, but the kids recognized the sacrifices that had to be made either way. I think that’s a good lesson for teenagers.
This seems like a great segue to talking to your kids about how to find a job that they are passionate about and that pays enough to support the lifestyle they want. What a great lesson to learn!
I identify a little with your daughter. My parents worked extra hours on nights, weekends, and summers. Both were public school educators. I was sometimes irritated to still be at school at 5 or 6 o’clock at night while my parents were doing work for other people’s kids. However, I now appreciate that they wanted to do a good job as well as provide opportunities for me to go to college and have extras. After being a stay-at-home mom for a few months, I also know that it’s a huge challenge and sometimes kind of boring. My mom would have gone crazy if she hadn’t worked. The short of it is we’re all finding the balance. If your daughter chooses to be a mom, she will then truly understand the juggling act no matter which path she chooses.
Karen Kelly commented on Dec 16 10 at 8:18 pmI was a single mom with no support so I had to work, however, I always told my daughter that even if I didn’t have to work I would want to work because I thought that being with other adults helped to make me a better mom. I was more patient, had more to talk about with her and it kept me a well rounded person. It also taught her a work ethic that she has today. I did work for understanding doctors who allowed me to leave work if needed to attend a concert or school play so perhaps I had it easy in that regard. If I had it to do over again, with a two parent house, I would still choose to work – I would want to and would also have to m(for my sanity)
Clisby commented on Dec 16 10 at 8:30 pmYou left out the option of working full-time from home, which is what I do. (I know that’s not available to a lot of people.)
My kids more often ask why their father has to work so much (we’re both computer programmers, but he’s more likely to have to work up into the night.) The answer is the same for both of us: when we decided to have children, we decided we would always live in a way either of us could support, alone. If I dropped dead or lost my job tomorrow, my family’s financial lifestyle wouldn’t have to change. Same if my husband dropped dead or lost his job tomorrow. (Obviously, it would change how much the still-working person could save for retirement, but it wouldn’t be an immediate disaster.)
My part of holding to that bargain is that I keep working. That’s what adults do when people depend on them, unless they’re wealthy or have incredibly generous family members to fall back on.
Leah commented on Dec 16 10 at 8:30 pmIt seems to me the lesson in all this is that to be able to stay at home with your kids or to be able to work a job you love are both luxuries. If you are able to do one of those two things, you are very, very fortunate. The average mother likely enjoys neither of those luxuries.
Did you ever read the book “The Second Shift” by Arlie Hochschild? (In all your free time :)…) It might be a bit outdated, but much of it is still very, very relevant. Your daughter might even enjoy it. I read it for the first time as a teen and it made a big impression on me. (Although I was still a year or two older than your daughter.)
Jenn commented on Dec 16 10 at 8:31 pmIt is so hard, sometimes, for me not to get defensive about this question!
Like Elizabeth, I was raised by a single mom who worked incredibly hard. I think she felt terribly guilty about that at times, although I never saw her as a failure. On the contrary; if she hadn’t had a career that she loved and found fulfilling I don’t know that it would have made me think about my own education and career choices as deeply. Also, she helped me realize that part of being a mother meant being prepared to provide for the children on my own if that’s what I had to do. Working is absolutely integral to what I do as a parent.
With my daughter, I was also a single mom so there was no question I’d need to work outside the home. I went back to work when she was 12 weeks old. I also found that my career at the time (retail management) was a great gig for someone unattached but near impossible for a single parent. So I transitioned (with some education) into working in higher ed, which gave me a better lifestyle fit. Sadly, it’s not nearly as lucrative but I was extremely lucky to find an employer who was supportive of my family.
I’m now married and with my son, who is about G’s age, it’s a whole new story. Due to the economy, my job was eliminated so I’ve been home with him. It is incredibly hard not working, and I’m trying very hard to find a suitable job. We live in the state with the highest unemployment in the country, so the fact that my husband still has a job is a blessing – but staying home with my son would not be my preference. I’d vastly prefer to be working at least part-time. Having children is absolutely a worthwhile pursuit, but in my particular dynamic (blended family, husband with child support commitments outside of our marriage, a child with ongoing and expensive medical needs) the loss of my income is a pretty staggering setback. We are currently unable to meet our basic needs without substantial help from family, which is humbling.
Bitts commented on Dec 16 10 at 8:38 pmAs a SAHM with 10 years of professional work under my belt before I had my children, I can unreservedly say I VASTLY prefer staying home full-time with them rather than work OTH. I work online in the evenings (after bedtime), so I do bring in a little extra money, but it doesn’t take away from the time I spend with my children. Part of the reason for this is that after 10 years, I was completely burned out and hating every minute of my job. That made it SO EASY to leave! If I had been working at a job I loved, perhaps the decision would have been harder. Also, since we had always planned for me to stay home, my husband made sure his career progressed in such a way that my income would not be missed much.
The position we’ve taken is that Daddy works AND Mommy works, they can just SEE the work Mommy does, while Daddy goes away to do his work. I have always referred to the houseowrk I do during the day as “my work” and they refer to it that way, as well.
I also think that staying home with them and teaching them the very real work that goes into running a household is valuable. It is essential for them to learn that laundry doesn’t do itself and clearn dishes don’t magically appear in the cabinets. We had a housekeeper when I was a child, so I had to learn from square one about how to keep a household running smoothly — but my kids will have that part learned by junior high!
One the truly intensive years of parenting are behind us, I will probably go back to work full-time (and maybe hire that housekeeper!) but I intend to keep the same hours as they do, so I am there when they get home from school — ideally, until they graduate.
But you know what they say … people plan, God laughs!
LA commented on Dec 16 10 at 8:50 pmWhat a thoughtful column. I hope you don’f find this intrusive but I have always wondered – what is the going rate at Babble for your blog posts?
JennG commented on Dec 16 10 at 9:36 pmI work in part to pay the bills but in greater part because I love my work and I want to work.
So I explain it to him (but he’s five) like this: Mummy and Daddy both work to make money so we can have a house and a car. We also work because we like to fix computers/write words. But the ONE thing I HATE about working is having to be apart during the weekdays.
In truth, working has given me a few great gifts as a parent. One is that I have been fortunate to expand my son’s world to include some gifted teachers/caregivers (Montessori daycare) and to be a part of that village and community. Two, my son gets to see my delight in him every day when I pick him up…when I was at home I was burnt out and looking for an escape -some- of the time, towards the end, and I think he sensed that some.
heatherw commented on Dec 16 10 at 9:45 pmThat’s a tricky question. A few years ago I had the opportunity to stop working full time, and so I did. After a few weeks, I found that I was bored. Not only that, but my daughter kept asking me when I would be getting a job so that I wouldn’t be so focused on her!
My kids were both in school at that point, and I wanted something to call my own – someplace where I could use my skills and education that didn’t necessarily pertain directly to my children. I’m currently working part time, which is truly the best of both worlds, except that the part time pay makes me feel like I’m a teenager again. I love my children, and I love working outside of the house.
K.C. commented on Dec 16 10 at 10:49 pmI’m a SAHM now, but I taught for 10 years before getting married. I loved my job like crazy. Being with middle school kids all day was difficult but SO MUCH FUN! Now that I’m home, I’m never, ever bored, but I’m lonely. My daughter (3) has recently started asking me why I don’t work, and I keep telling her that different things work for different families. I tell her that we’re very lucky that I get to stay home with her and her brother (2) while their dad is at work. I don’t feel defensive when my kids ask about it, but I about flip my lid when other adults ask me when I’m going back to work. Because, you know, being at home all day with a 2 and 3 year old is easy as pie. ;)
Melissa commented on Dec 16 10 at 10:51 pmIronically, a good friend and I were having this conversation recently. My husband and I have 4 children – 10, 9, 3 and nearly 6mo. I was very ambitious and career focused while the “top two” were infants, toddlers, preschoolers and school agers. Me working was just a given to them – there were no questions; it was just part of the deal. I found fulfillment from my job that couldn’t be found elsewhere. However, when baby 3 was born, t I had finally reached the position I had been aiming for (Nat’l Sales, fancy travel) and I thought I would be really happy at that point. BUT – little did I know, that I was actually very miserable – I was missing my children so much. #3 was (at the time) our last baby and I really wanted to see what it was like to care for one of my children 100% of the time – I had not done so with the previous kids. They were w/ family or a sitter 75% of the time. SO – 2 years ago quit working and became a SAHM. It was a huge loss finanically – but thanks to my hubby’s job, our basic needs were taken care of – and we scaled back extras 1,000 fold. We were “poorer” but I was happier. Fast Forward 2 years later – and a surpise baby later – I do have to deal with my older kids asking me “Why don’t you work?” or saying to friends, “My dad is a chef and my mom doesn’t have a job”. Or, “Remember our Friday night dates, Mom?” (When we would go shopping and to dinner just the 3 of us). I do get a little defensive when they ask – and always feel guilty and somewhat selfish for deciding to stay at home when they put me on the spot like that, or ask for something that is not part of the budget. Funny, right? I felt very guilty for missing so much of their infancy and childhood, and now I feel guilty for being at home and unable to provide all the ‘extras’. It will be interesting to see how the next few years play out – while I love being at home with my little ones – it’s by far the toughest job I’ve ever had and while the ‘mom’ in me is very fulfilled, the bright, educated professional in me is not. We will see what transpires. Ultimatley – to moms and kids alike – the grass always looks greener on the other side.
lsp commented on Dec 17 10 at 12:31 amDifferent things work for different families. But I think you could honestly tell your kids, Katie, that you work to pay the bills, and you work because it is professionally and personally fulfilling–you like it. Even if you didn’t have your full time out of the home job, you’d still be writing, I’d imagine. It is part of the fabric of who you are. It is okay to have a job and like it, AND be a mom.
I work part time, cobbling together several freelance gigs. It is pretty tough and not very lucrative. But I feel it is really important to keep some professional activity. I stopped working full time three years ago when we moved so my husband could take a better job. And while I’m glad that I can have more flexibility to be with my son, I worry very much about being able to get back into the workforce, and having the security a job brings. My husband could get hit by a bus, or become disabled, and not be able to work. I want to be able to provide for my family as much as he does. And I also want to be able to support myself and my kids on my own if that situation arises. You just never know.
And, I just like it. I like to be able to use my brain beyond trying to figure out how to remove this stain, figure out grocery lists, and fit all those toys into the toybox. Not that that work is not important–there is just other work I’d rather be doing.
I am sure your kids are proud of the work you do. But kids can be selfish, too–I think you’re daughter’s comment was more a dig to get under your skin than anything else. I think if she is fortunate enough to find a career that she enjoys she will want to balance family and professional work rather than try to give one up for the other.
Ally commented on Dec 17 10 at 1:32 amI am an educator in the public schools. I am lucky to be ony kids’ schedule. I had to go back to work when each child was 7 months old, and we established a routine. Last year my 10 year old son asked why another mom volunteered so much in his class. I told him this other mom didn’t work. He was so surprised, it had never really registered that some moms stay home! And to think of all my anguish when I had to go back to work!! I have friends who couldn’t afford to stay home but did. Some have had major financial issues, and have not been able to access appropriate health care for their children. So for me and my family, working is definately the right decision. I do leave work at work and focus on home at home.
Steph commented on Dec 17 10 at 10:38 amThis is timely for me, just last night I was discussing this with my 7 yr old. I’m lucky in that most of my kids’ friends’ moms also work, so working moms are the norm around us. But our difficulty is that we don’t have family to help us, like many of his friends. They have grandmothers to stay with on school holidays or snow days. They have aunts who are SAHMs to keep them over the summer. But my kids have to be in camp all summer, and our summer vacations are minimal because I’ve used all of my vacation time to stay home on holidays and snow days. My son didn’t understand why our summer vacation was really just a long weekend, when many of his friends enjoyed two-week long vacations.
But on the flip side, I hope years from both of my kids will have learned one of those big picture lessons…about life being many shades of grey….about life not being just about them…about making hard choices and sacrifice. Or at least that’s what I tell myself to ease my guilt!
Alexicographer commented on Dec 17 10 at 11:10 am@Clisby could you achieve the same end with greater flexibility using term life insurance?
Nidia commented on Dec 17 10 at 12:18 pmJust last night I received a rejection letter for a job I recently interviewed for. The job would have given my career a big jump and also raised my income significantly and since my husband is trying to finish his school, the extra income would have relieved a lot of pressure on us BUT the job would be an additional 30 miles away making my commute a total of 1.5 hrs each way. In my heart I was hoping for that rejection letter. It is hard enough not being able to be at my children’s beck and call 100%, but this new job would really take me out of their lives and that is very difficult when one is still only a 2 year old and the other is 8 with a learning disability that requires lots of patience, love, and time. I’ve done both stay at home and work and they are both difficult and rewarding. My 8 year old understands that we try our best to have a healthy balance and we make the effort to make it about the quality time spent together and not the quantity.
My dad was a long haul truck driver and still is and i can honestly say that I really appreciate the quality of the time we spent together even if the quantity was scarce.
KP commented on Dec 17 10 at 1:32 pmI suspect there may be a little bit of “grass is always greener” involved in J’s question. My mother was a stay-at-home mom for my entire childhood, and I told her to her face many times that I would never want that for myself – I wanted a “real” career and didn’t want to “just” be a mother. Looking back, I’m sure that stung as well. No matter what mothers choose to do, there will be both advantages and drawbacks – perhaps at the moment your presence around the house seems a wee bit more gratifying to J than those pesky things like shoes, health insurance and paid heating bills.
Perhaps by way of explanation to your kids, you could emphasize three things: 1) that you do have to work in order to provide for your family 2) that your career is also fulfilling and you enjoy its challenges and rewards and 3) that you also love being a mother and parenting your children, and so you strive to find a balance that works for your family. You could also explain that you are better prepared to be a good mother when you are able to also excel at your career – that taking care of yourself enables you to better take care of your children.
I’m sure your kids have seen that other mothers have made various choices about careers based on their financial situation and preferences. It’s not unreasonable to ask your children to trust you to make the right choices for your family.
Clisby commented on Dec 17 10 at 2:16 pm@Alexicographer: “could you achieve the same end with greater flexibility using term life insurance?”
Of course not. That is, unless you know of term life insurance policies that will pay off if my husband or I becomes permanently disabled, possibly even to the point of having to spend the rest of his/my life in a nursing home; Maybe you know of term life insurance policies that pay off if we lose our jobs. Maybe you know of term life insurance policies that will pay off if one spouse divorces the other. Maybe you know of insurance companies that are dying to issue a term life insurance policy to a man who is a 5-year cancer survivor. (Fortunately, my husband had the foresight to get term life insurance before that happened – but now we have two children instead of one, and the option of increasing the amount is out). From a pure, cold, financial standpoint, the death of a spouse is not necessarily the biggest possible blow.
Korinthia commented on Dec 17 10 at 2:23 pmI tell my kids I work to earn us money for all the things we have, and because I like what I do. That’s never been hard to explain. It’s trickier getting them to understand when their dad’s job with the Army requires him to leave us for a year at a time. I have trouble dealing with that myself, so I’m not always good at getting them to understand it either.
Claire R commented on Dec 17 10 at 2:32 pmI was single when I adopted my daughters. I returned to work 2 months after the arrival at each-one at 9 weeks, and one at 3 years. After I got married, I continued to work full time-my partner was in Law School and then doing the lowest-paying kind of lawyer work there is, representing dependent and neglected children in Juvenile Court. We have always needed the money. That said, I would still choose to work, although maybe not full time. The adult interaction gives me the balance I need. Now my kids are grown-I just walked in to the family room where they are hanging out together on winter break from college and graduate school and asked them, “Hey-did y’all feel neglected because I worked when you were little?” They both laughed.
SarahB commented on Dec 17 10 at 4:27 pmWhat a great piece. I actually forwarded it to my mother, who worked full-time from when I was three. What I told her is that I don’t remember ever wishing she had stayed-at-home, but I do remember all the things she showed up for and how she was one of the first employees in her company to use flex-time when it became available so she could end her work day closer to when my school day ended. I remember her having to use most of her vacation to visit Dad’s side of the family and how we would sit down at the beginning of the year to plan out her requests for time off and whether to prioritize the days around Christmas or Thanksgiving.
Take Your Daughter to Work Day seems to have fallen out of fashion, but I got to go downtown with Mom to work twice during my middle-school years, and it really made a positive impression on me.
Cricket commented on Dec 17 10 at 5:44 pmOne of the most valuable things growing up that my parents “let” me do was help pay the bills. I was able to write the checks (they signed of course), seal, stamp etc. Being able to see your parents checking account balance answers many of the questions.
Since I was an older mom when I had children I am able to stay home for a time. I do plan on going bacl to work on some scale once my children are in school full time.
Margot commented on Dec 18 10 at 12:36 amI worked full time when my oldest was born and found, with a husband with a career that involved travel and on-call time, day and night, that something had to give and it was my job. We lived and still live a modest lifestyle with used cars, very few vacations, used furniture and clothes, etc… not to say poor but choosing to spend on quality rather than the things that might impress the neighbors. Looking back, the investment in the children has been priceless and I don’t think that two incomes would have been the boon I imagined when I first had a child and thought I would be working full-time. My children are almost grown and there are big ifs for this sort of thing to work out: a stable marriage, the financial ability to live on one income, the retirement that can come from one income not two… So, against the odds it has worked for us but I sympathize with those that want to or must make other choices to support their families or their own needs. Pitting SAHMs against working moms is silly and counterproductive. Some day perhaps we will honestly acknowledge the societal costs of sending a child’s primary care-giver off too soon and recognize that supporting children and their families means saving the society.
Alexicographer commented on Dec 18 10 at 1:10 am@Clisby, thanks for your reply. I can’t really read its tone but if you thought I was trying to pick a fight, I wasn’t: it was a serious question as well as one intended to recognize (in a larger discussion) that different people find different approaches to ensuring their (relative) security given that the future is unknown.
It did, of course, occur to me that either or both of you might be uninsurable. My husband’s not (uninsurable), but he’s expensive to insure (approaching his 6th decade and a smoker) and our coverage on him is modest (but he’s out of the paid workforce and his pension option is 100% survivorship, so that’s an overstatement), so the idea’s not entirely foreign to me, neither is the potential value of long-term care insurance, if available (but we don’t have it). I read somewhere on the internet (so it must be true) that there are now firms offering divorce insurance, but know nothing more about it.
Certainly, life’s uncertain and it sounds like yours may have held more bad experiences and/or risks than perhaps others posting here. I’m with you, honestly, on the both-able-to-support-ourselves-independently thing, but I also recognize that life’s uncertainty can as easily be presented as an argument for living more “in the moment” which for some (not me) would mean wanting not to be in the paid workforce…
Cheryl commented on Dec 18 10 at 8:14 amIn my twelve years of motherhood, I’ve been a part-time working mom twice, and for eight years straight a full-time SAHM. I’m two years into my second stint as a part-timer, this time as the owner of my own business. I am finding that I am not wired for part-time. I can’t turn off the work when I get home, and I feel guilty the whole time I’m working (30-40 hours per week). I wanted to start my business because I felt the need to contribute something, both in my community, with a place for women to gather, and in my home, with the bills. My business is providing a valuable service to my hometown, but is alas providing very little financially to my family. Fortunately my husband’s business has regained its footing enough that we are not in the uncertain position we were in two years ago.
My kids looked at starting my business as a cool thing Mom did, but now it gets in the way of our doing more things together as a family. My home has definitely suffered for the lack of attention, and I have decided that I don’t want my kids to grow up without me around, physically as well as mentally.
How will we tell the kids? I guess I’ll tell them exactly what I said here, that I wanted to build something to help people, including us and their dad. But then I realized that in our home I would do the most good by focusing on our home. Running a business half-way is making me miserable, and I don’t want to take that out on my family. My four kids are 12, 11, 9 and 7, and they won’t be around forever.
The financial facts of my business are that right now it is just a very time-consuming hobby. To really make money at it would require me to work more hours, and that’s the thing we can’t, or don’t want to, afford.
This is just such an individual question. I really wish part-time worked for me, but I’m just not cut out for it.
(One thing that I’ll continue, though, is a college-age babysitter in the summer, for one or two days a week. The kids have LOVED that, and it will give me some flexibility to get things done.)
Nic commented on Dec 18 10 at 8:56 amLike Katie, I work at a reasonably senior level in the digital arena although for a major worldwide manufacturer in the ‘mess cleaning’ industry ;)
I work because for many years I had no option, as a single mother I had to supply for my children or rely on the welfare system having no support from their father. The latter simply wasn’t an option; whilst I could work, I would.
My children attended, and still do to a degree, high quality childcare which I’m lucky enough to access. However, I wish vehemently on numerous occasions when I can’t be there for a daytime school production, or when they want to have friends over straight after school that I could just be at home.The reality is though, I’m a better mother for being a strong woman. My children are well aware of my career and will proudly tell all concerned that I was involved in the media campaign for my company when it shows on TV. I give them my absolute attention whenever I’m home and they benefit from opportunities that we simply can’t afford if I didn’t have the job I do.
However, more than that, I know myself and I’m an ambitious, target driven woman who would struggle to feel fulfilled during the hours they are at school. That’s not to say I’m not envious of those who do, there is a part of me who would love to be that way. But I’m not her and to try and make my life fit a mould thats not my own wouldn’t benefit my boys. I know that.
So it turns out that I’m a woman who has fought like a tiger momma for everything they’ve ever had and always will. I’ve done the 80 hour work stint and still managed to sew (albeit messily) an Aztec costume for the Year 5 assembly. I’m capable, resiliant and have a strong work ethic and if the only things my children take from my parenting is those three elements, then I don’t believe I can have done badly.Do I feel guilty though? Of course..
Clisby commented on Dec 18 10 at 4:15 pmDads: What do you tell your kids about why you work?
Danielle commented on Dec 18 10 at 8:15 pmI stayed home with my first for 1.5 years, then took a full-time job. It was a very difficult transition, and my daughter was understandably upset about me going back to work, which she expressed in many different ways. However, I have a doctorate, and always knew that I would be utilizing my degree even after having kids. Then, I landed the holy-grail of jobs, which is work I enjoy that provides meaning, and is also very well paid with top of the line benefits. If I stay with the company for 15 years, I will have free health insurance for myself and my husband for life. Needless to say, I’m keeping the job. My kids are too young right now to explain to them exactly why I work (4 years, and 4 months). But, when they are old enough, I will tell them that I have a very secure job that provides us with a house and health insurance, and also has enough flexibility that I am able to be at every well doctor visit, every scheduled dental visit, and any special event as long as there’s some advance planning.
Gwyn commented on Dec 19 10 at 12:30 pmI like to bring it to the most practical of terms. My husband and I have two small children and he works fulltime, I work partime. (We are fortunate enough to have flexible jobs and a mother in law who is also flexible to arrange childcare.)
We COULD choose to have just one of us (him in our case) work, but that would mean living in a trailer park on government health insurance, which is not what we choose (as my income is necessary for a modest house and non-government health insurance for our family, which is essential due to a health condition my daughter has.)
So the truth is whatever work arrangements a family makes, it’s to maintain the least standard of living acceptable to them. Neither my husband nor I have careers that can support a family with multiple children without making lifestyle changes we do not want to endure for the sake of one of us not working.
Tracey commented on Dec 20 10 at 2:41 pmNot working was never a real choice, so we’ve always been direct about working with our kids (15 and 12) and presented it as a standard of living. Work allows us to have a nice home, vacations, health coverage and the money for the extra’s that make life a little more comfortable. It was only when I branched out into some community service that my daughter started to ask why I did that and when I would be home with her.
She was fine with work, as it was always understood that work is necessary and helps support our family, but the extra is time away from her that shedoesn’t like. We discussed this, at length, how giving back to the community is important, being involved in one’s town/school district helps make it better for everyone. And the most important is that if you feel something is important enough, and you have ideas that can make it better/change it for the good, you get involved and give of yourself and time to do so. And then you make priority time with your kids so they feel they get just as much quality time as you give elsewhere.
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