I’m not too happy that Oprah allowed Suze Orman to bash Nadia. It’s pretty obvious that Nadia is mentally ill. She was just paraded and bullied and exploited. Shame on Oprah for allowing this to happen.

I could not believe what i was hearing and seeing on Oprah today!!!! All i saw was two women bulling one little disturbed woman!!! Oprah!! Winfrey!! You of all people should never have went where you did today!!! Why would you do that to someone with the problems this woman has?!! I thought you did not believe in BULLYING!!! Well you sure proved me wrong today!!! After you two finally got this woman to say she would not do what she did and maid her sit there in front of millilons!!! of people to say she HATED HERSELF!!! Why in the world would you stoop so low!!! How would you feel if two women ganged up on you on National TV!!! So much for caring about another human bieng!!!! I would never watch your show again!!! But i am sure that would not upset the two women i saw today!!! I do not call what i saw today nothing but HOW TO BE A BULLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have never commented before on any story, but I have to agree that airing this segment was a mistake. Orman came off as a bully, and goading her into admitting she made a mistake served what purpose? It seemed as if Oprah and Orman were rolling their eyes at the poor woman. Very disturbing on all counts. I was appalled at the behavior of Susie Orman, anyone with half a brain could have given the same advice, which in my (as a banker) opinion was very superficial.

Agree with me or not, Oprah has always had a way to ask a question with the utmost of respect and to answer questions that audiences want to know. She focused Nadia and got the answer from her in Nadia’s way.

Suze was tough but it’s exactly what Nadia needed. She seemed to get through a wall. Sometimes people need to hear the cold truth. Suze is smart with faults but aren’t we all.

Nadia came across this time as more real and despite her mental wanderings, she still expressed herself. I still wonder if she will get a show on OWN and of course the criticism is she is broke sitting next to the world’s richest woman at $2.7 billion.

I really wish a company would sponsor the family like Chase Manhattan so it turns into a win win.

Either way, despite trying to get at the truth people will either respect or vilify Nadia.

It was like watching Jerry Springer or Nancy Grace. I never thought I would see Oprah stoop so low as to air garbage like that. Even Oprah herself looked like a deer in the headlights. Suze Oreman is a soulless leech. As for nadya…she’s nuts for sure, but my God, she needs mental help! I hope this isn’t another Micheal Jackson type of situation and I certainly hope she doesn’t end up like him. We need to help each other, not bash each other!

Man,I can’t believe I missed this! Very well written post. I really think you have a good point about the doctor. And Suze=scary!!

Oprah ,Oprah, Shame on you!!! how could you be so mean as you were today
to Nadya? YOU BIG BULLY!! never again shall my sister and i watch your show…..

Thank you Linda for supplying the FACTS in this fiasco. Well Done!

This High Order Multiple pregnancy was no accident. An IVF cycle with a fresh embryo transfer takes planning. And time and MONEY. Minimum $15K each cycle. The Octuplet transfer was Nadya’s 12th so don’t tell me she wasn’t “educated” in the process. Yet she demanded all 12 Blastocysts! No accident that she would have an HOM.

This deliberate attempt at such a dangerous pregnancy is SICK and IRRATIONAL. It is a miracle there were no fatalities

Suze discovered that she borrowed the money to do the IVF. From who? Did she promise to pay them back when she hit the baby jackpot?

So for 8 years she was addicted to having babies, as “fillers” for her own emptiness. Great. How mature. Use these human lives to solve your problems. While you are in grad school to become a psychiatrist????

Suze and Oprah did not abuse Nadya. They were patient and generous in framing the conversation to allow Nadya to come clean. But Nadya kept slipping away into her lies and they had to get in her face to get back to the truth!

C’mon. Did anyone really believe her eyelashes were so long that she had to cut them off? Or that she went back to Grad School FOUR days after C-section twins???

BTW. Nadya watched her Oprah show today at her Gym. At 4:00 on the stair-master.14 kids under 9 and Nadya is at Total Woman Fitness and Day Spa in Brea at 4:00. Go figure. Who’s watching the kids? one “nanny” my ass.

I was shocked to have seen such a show produced by Oprah! Octomom is def. indeed of some mental help. The children here are in great danger. She does seem a bit deranged and more so unstable of the whole situation. As for Suze, well very unprofessional and ignorant i must say. I am not here to judge anyone but shall i make some suggestions, rehab of some sort should be helpful for Octomom. Whatever happened to the best interests of the children?? It’s not about no one that was on stage. Think about what those children are lacking. So Sad!

I try my best to help anyone in my path who is burdened so what I saw tonight was very extremely disturbing. I don’t hate her at all, so Ms. Orman was wrong when she told Nadia that everyone hates her. And to pressure a fragile person like her confess those different things, even in private would have been excessive, but to do it in front of a live audience and cameras for millions to view was demeaning to say the least. And the fact that Oprah and Suzie profited from it financially, while these children have immediate needs sickens me in the pit of my stomach.

Everybody with stone in hand watched a weak and worn lamb slaughtered before our eyes. She’s overwhelmed as any of us would be under a heavy burden. So many will continue to mock her but I believe those children will grow up one day and be like other children whose moms struggled to raise them and some if not all of the kids will praise her for trying to do the best she could for them. I pray for the day to come when they are my age or yours and can see tonight’s episode and realize all she tried to do for them, imperfect as she may be… and the humiliation she faced on their behalf. May she and those children get all the true love, true help and true support they need from God and loving hearts… Amen.

I will never ever watch anything that has anything to do with either Oprah or Suze. They showed themselves for what they are: mean girls. I don’t condone bullying and that is what I saw today…… No words of apology from either Suze or Oprah can revert the damage they have done in my eyes. They are horrible human beings and if I had a choice, I’d prefer to spend time with Nadya than either of them. After all the molesters, murderers etc that Oprah has interviewed, I found her treatment of Nadya Suleman a disgrace. Never again…… “OWN”= Obnoxious Windbag Winfrey.

Done.

I think Suze Orman called it like it was and is. This woman has a problem with the truth, she doesn’t tell it. For those that think Suze and Oprah were abusive to this woman, just think about the abuse those 14 children endure everyday. No quality time with a parent. I imagine without a lot of help, the house surely isn’t as sanitary as it should be. The State of California should be dropping in at any moment and removing these 14 children from this woman and preparing for them to be adopted. This woman cannot take care of 14 children alone. This is next to an impossible situation. I have no sympathy for the Octomom. I remember when she was so disrespectful to her mother and talking so smart in the beginning. Her mother told her she wasn’t going to help when foolishly she decided to have 8 more children. Octo so much as said to her mother, there is nothing you can do about it, and really suck it up and continue to help. I think her mother left and isn’t helping today and I do not blame her. I have no idea what she is going to do. I do not hate her and certainly not the children. Nadya is going to be hard pressed to find anyone to help her. Quite frankly people do not want too.

While I say anyone like Nadya’s messed up in the head, the truth is I think she’s a narcissist and is playing everyone. I think she’s aware of what she’s doing, and overestimated her abilities, and now is too prideful to openly and fully admit she messed up. The truth is she made a mistake getting IVF again. If that means 8 kids are mistakes, well, it’s the harsh truth. They’re hear now, nothing we can do about that, but they shouldn’t have been conceived. She likes babies and wants a messload of them to adore her. Remember her worries about the kids loving anyone other than her, as if children can only love one person?

Nadya needs to be laid into, ripped a new one. Delicate-talking has done nothing. What happened when Dr. Phil tried being gentle? She took him for a ride and made a fool of him. So Suze Orman told her the manicures and crap have to go. That’s the truth.

oprah shame on you.
suzie SHAMA SHAME SHAME. KARMA IS A BITCH MOTHERFURKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Suzie Orman is a bull dyke, and I’m sure has her own low self-esteem issues.

Motherhood is NOT something Orman is comfortable with and to put her with Nayda was a big mistake on someone’s part.

Congratulations to Suze and Oprah. They tried their best to get through to her. Those unfortunate orphans are being abused and neglected and these phony ‘posters’ with their various names and cut and paste comments don’t get it that she is a liar and a con, always has been, always will be. No one can be so stupid as to believe that what octocon has done and is doing is right – no one except hired posters. I read quite a few of the comments on the Oprah board – many of the comments here are the same cut and paste from the Oprah board, they just use different names.

Guess she and her lawyer on retainer think they can cover up her insanity by hiring people to defend her and trashing Suze and Oprah. What a joke. No one can justify what this woman has done and the way she treats the orphans. I call them orphans because they have no father and that woman that calls herself their mother is anything but. Wish I could post the link to the German documentary. You would be appalled and disgusted. Anyone who could treat babies like that needs to have their azz kicked. Too bad Suze didn’t bitch slap her into next week.

If I were to walk in Nadya’s shoes for a day things would be different. First of all I would go to my mother who I totally slammed on national TV and say I’m sorry. Then I would thank her for caring for my children and letting us live with her. I would apologize to her for making her spend all of her own retirement money and having her own home foreclosed on because I never gave her any help with my family. I would get my son’s cleft lip fixed. I would move the dining room table from the hallway where it is used as additional counter space and put it in the dining room where the oldest six children and I could sit down for family meals and they would no longer have to eat in their rooms watching TV. I would stop lying. I would stop shopping for toys. Things would be different and with the exception of fixing Jonah’s lip, all of these changes are free.

WAKE. UP. Most of you seem to have forgotten how much Natalie Denise Doud-Suleman has played on your sympathy as she would a fiddle. What suckers many of have become through the birthing and “bringing up” of these fourteen children. You should be ashamed of yourselves. There are people in the world who really, truly need our help, and we’re giving it to this irresponsible Ox? Really? Or maybe the majority of you are one person posting over and over and over again under different monikers. Who cares. What Octomom has done is NOT OK. Absolutely not OK. We can blame Dr. Kamrava all we want, but if we’re going to do that, let’s equally blame Octo who was NOT forced– I repeat, NOT forced– into performing for us in this way for an easy life. Do not blame Suze Orman or even Oprah. These two women were genuinely trying to help Octo because Octo reached out to Oprah via a despairing letter. Octomom deliberately CHOSE to do go through with the implantation of a dozen embryos for the sake of the high life. She wasn’t held at gunpoint. But because she’s failed at her scheme, because it blew up in her face, she suffered a meltdown on national television. Do not feel sorry for Natalie Denise Doud-Suleman. She is a criminal, a fraud, and a child abuser. Let her entire family wind up in the street. CPS won’t allow those kids to be on the street for more than an hour, believe me. They’ll come in, take those kids, and put them in loving, supportive homes. Save your money in order to survive this economy we’re in for the long haul– do NOT blindly give it to Fraudya, for she is only going to maintain her face with it, not her family.

@BELLESTARR
You my dear are right on point.
A horrible bad show, no one should be bullied like this:( it made me so sad.

A REAL Mother would put her many children before herself and what she wants. She would put up her children for adoption because it would better insure that THEY would be loved and cared for and receive necessary ATTENTION, something she is UNABLE to do -NO MATTER how much $$ she receives. I am a mother myself and if faced with similar circumstances – I would suffer the greatest by losing my children but knowing they would be better off would make it worthwhile. And knowing that one day–they would know that I loved them SO MUCH that i was willing to give them up – for a better life for them!!!!!! Thats what a real mother would do!!!!

I am so sick of the insistence of Nadia that “keeping them all together with her at the helm” is paramount. What kind of future does this insure for the children??? She did not even raise her first 6–HER MOTHER DID.

And notice her fake posturing on Oprah, the slumped shoulders – shrinking like a little 12 year old, answering “uh huh uh huh uh huh” as they spoke to her – as if she were actually listening to them and understanding. NOT! She NEVER listens, just formulates what HER next sentence will be – spouting off some psycho crap she thinks will sound like an honest response to questions instead of something she read. Natalie is a Master Manipulator!!

Tonight is the first night that I heard about the show regarding the young lady with the large family. As I listened from call to the next, I was devestated on how sister Oprah allowed this to be on her show. Money is one thing, but does not constitute another to knock down another.

At this point, because both women appeared to be comfortable in bashing another human being no matter their opinions, still, both women better be careful in their judgement…..as one day they too will judged.

God forbid if one fatal incident of sickness should take over either lives, money wouldn’t be able to purchase health, depending on the illness; not wishing either woman ill-fate, but this is something that could have been done in privacy.

Oprah has her money and so does Orman, those currencies are from a God-force despite what either of them may think….so they both better be careful how they treat God’s other children, just because favor was found with them.

Every eagle must come down to eat sometime…..especially women, need to be mindful that one must climb to success, but never step on another to get it…including Amen’s, or even fake people who may come on their shows, but mean neither of them no good……again, these women better walk lightly.

God don’t like ugly and not too fond of the pretty; Oprah, I am in shock. Please do not forget your roots..if you don’t stand up for something, you will stand for anything, and become just another show, which will allow anything.

May the Creator find goodness in you after such a cruel act….Be who you are Oprah; you do not need to allow such things as this come onto your show….all the gift giving in the world will not be forgiven with the God that has placed you on high for various reason.,please be careful.